Hi Shani, I am not a videographer or a script writer, but I would like to help with this project in all ways I can. I can provide helping hands in transcribing and subtitling the video.
-Netha On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 5:36 AM, Floor Koudijs <[email protected]> wrote: > /me looks at Sara??? :) > > > Floor Koudijs > > Senior Manager, Wikipedia Education Program > > Wikimedia Foundation > > +1.415.839.6885 x6806 (landline) > > +1.415.692.5289 (cell phone) > > [email protected] > > education.wikimedia.org > > On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 4:04 PM, Shani <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi, Floor. >> >> So great to have the team support this! Loved everyone's ideas and really >> happy to collaborate with such a great bunch. >> >> Naturally, I'm in for the general video production, but would love to >> work on this with maybe 1-2 more volunteers. So, who's in..? :) >> >> Cheers, >> Shani. >> >> On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 1:03 AM, Floor Koudijs <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Hello all, >>> >>> I'm really loving this discussion. So happy to see you all chime in and >>> share your ideas about what kind of format would be helpful for the monthly >>> Collab meetings. >>> >>> Shani, thanks for suggesting the idea of a showcase. I love it. Let's >>> make sure we find a balance between a 1 minute pitch (which is entirely too >>> short to do anything justice) and a 15 minute exposé, which may be >>> perceived as too long by some people. I also really like Melina's outline, >>> and would like to encourage all of you to think about these questions for >>> framing this: >>> * Why is this interesting or relevant for an international audience? >>> * What can others learn from this experience? >>> * What was the major eye-opener / lesson you got from this experience? >>> * Highlight one challenge and one creative solution you came up with >>> (and I can keep going with these kinds of questions). >>> >>> Thanks as well for suggesting a general education-related video. That >>> sounds really awesome. I did speak to Victor about something like that a >>> long time ago, and much has changed since then, so it's probably time to >>> dust off that conversation and see if we can get it moving. Since this is a >>> request that came from our Collab members, I would be so very happy if >>> (some of) you can take this forward. We would be happy to provide guidance >>> as needed. I'm also happy to have an initial conversation with Victor to >>> see whether he would be able to do this, or whether it might make more >>> sense to go with the external group Sara suggested. Who of you Collab >>> members would like to take the lead on this? (and let's put it in >>> Phabricator then!) >>> >>> I look forward to a great meeting in December! >>> >>> >>> Floor Koudijs >>> >>> Senior Manager, Wikipedia Education Program >>> >>> Wikimedia Foundation >>> >>> +1.415.839.6885 x6806 (landline) >>> >>> +1.415.692.5289 (cell phone) >>> >>> [email protected] >>> >>> education.wikimedia.org >>> >>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 1:39 AM, Àlex Hinojo <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> sorry for the missquote, I was meaning exactly the same :-) >>>> >>>> 2015-11-30 10:33 GMT+01:00 Shani <[email protected]>: >>>> >>>>> Thanks to everyone who has already participated in this small >>>>> "brainstorming" with me. :-) >>>>> Just a quick clarification, I was talking about recording *only* the >>>>> project showcase, not the whole session. I believe it's good and >>>>> important >>>>> to have an informal part, where peolpe are free to ask, share etc off >>>>> record, without worrying about being recording, for exactly the reasons >>>>> Sara mentioned. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Shani.. >>>>> On 30 Nov 2015 11:04, "Sara Mörtsell" <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi everyone! >>>>>> >>>>>> Great progress guys!! Melina's outline feels just like something we >>>>>> can make good use out of. >>>>>> >>>>>> I have some thoughts about recording the meetings. Generally, this is >>>>>> great for all the reasons Shani says and it's in line with the open and >>>>>> sharing spirit of our community and movement. One thing however I've >>>>>> learnt from facilitating MOOCs is that it can have a censoring effect on >>>>>> the participants, in this case that would be on ourselves. If I feel like >>>>>> I'm taking too much of a risk when I talk about the downsides or mistakes >>>>>> in my projects, then I might go for simply leaving them out of the >>>>>> discussions, missing a good learning opportunity for everyone. Perhaps we >>>>>> could record parts of the meeting recorded? I don't know, just thought >>>>>> I'd >>>>>> share my thoughts on that. >>>>>> >>>>>> Video! YES! And if it's a matter of budget etc. we should also >>>>>> remember Simply Show Foundation (who where at Wikimania and perhaps some >>>>>> of >>>>>> you attended their workshop?), >>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/user/simpleshowfoundation. Ilya who was >>>>>> their representative joined us at the Education pre-conference so he >>>>>> already has some concepts of what we do and why etc. They are a >>>>>> non-profit >>>>>> part of a corporate and they do stuff for other non-profits at low >>>>>> costs, I >>>>>> know they're producing the Wikipedia 15 film so you'll see more about >>>>>> them >>>>>> once that film is out. >>>>>> >>>>>> Looking forward to our next meeting! >>>>>> Sara >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> 2015-11-29 17:39 GMT+01:00 Shani <[email protected]>: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Oh, I love all the ideas, and even more so that there's a discussion >>>>>>> about doing something like that. >>>>>>> Still curious to learn what other collab members think about it, as >>>>>>> well as WMF EDU team. :) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>> Shani. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sun, Nov 29, 2015 at 6:26 PM, Melina Masnatta < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Shani >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I love your ideas, I think both of them are very useful J >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I´m agree with Vojtěch and Netha. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> In the case of the showcase a specific project, maybe we can share >>>>>>>> before links, or make a very short infographyc (exist many free digital >>>>>>>> tools like picktochart <http://piktochart.com/>). I think we can >>>>>>>> prepare too a questions or a form to be more specific…for example: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 1) Why do you think it´s important to share this case? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 2) Can be scalable? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 3) About results and suggestions >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 4) How can we get more information if we are interesting to know >>>>>>>> more? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Like the exercise of pitching >>>>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pitch_(filmmaking)>, we can do it >>>>>>>> in a very short time ;) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> What do you think? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hugs, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Meli >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 2015-11-29 9:44 GMT-03:00 Netha Hussain <[email protected]>: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi Shani, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thank you for suggesting the creation of a video! I think a video >>>>>>>>> is going to be a great resource, especially for outreach. I love the >>>>>>>>> idea >>>>>>>>> of being able to show a video to inspire students (and faculty) to >>>>>>>>> join the >>>>>>>>> Wikipedia Education Program. A cost-effective solution for this would >>>>>>>>> be to >>>>>>>>> have the respective chapters and liaisons film the video locally. The >>>>>>>>> interviews could be done during Collab meetings or during Wikimania >>>>>>>>> while >>>>>>>>> in Italy, when most of us are likely to get together. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> In mid- December, we in India will have a regional Wikimedia >>>>>>>>> conference for Malayalam (ml) Wikimedians. We are anticipating a >>>>>>>>> handful of >>>>>>>>> students and teachers as participants. I am thrilled by the idea of >>>>>>>>> videographing them,recording their experiences about how they started >>>>>>>>> using >>>>>>>>> Wikipedia as a resource for education. If we can lay down a plan for >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> video by early December, I will be able to get relevant shots from >>>>>>>>> India >>>>>>>>> for adding on to the video. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Best >>>>>>>>> Netha >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sun, Nov 29, 2015 at 3:20 PM, Shani <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks for your input, Vojtech! >>>>>>>>>> I agree regarding trickiness of filming various programs, but it >>>>>>>>>> can be worked around creatively, by filming locally, interviewing >>>>>>>>>> online >>>>>>>>>> and editing everything later to one video. The bigger challenge I >>>>>>>>>> see is >>>>>>>>>> deciding what goes into such a video.. But before we get there, >>>>>>>>>> let's see >>>>>>>>>> if others agree it's necessary. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> As for 10 min vs. 15+5 for questions -- no doubt, 10 is better >>>>>>>>>> than nothing. However, the reason for propoding a longer time is to >>>>>>>>>> allow >>>>>>>>>> people time to get into the details of *how* exactly they run their >>>>>>>>>> programs. >>>>>>>>>> It seems to me that we talk a lot about best practices and >>>>>>>>>> documentation, but bedises metrics (that the FDC also requires), the >>>>>>>>>> level >>>>>>>>>> of details is such that if you really want to understand how a >>>>>>>>>> specific >>>>>>>>>> program works, actually learn from their experience and say try to >>>>>>>>>> "duplicate" the experience, you won't know what to do because all >>>>>>>>>> you know >>>>>>>>>> it that "X had a great experience with 5th grade pupils", "Y created >>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>> successful university course", "Z have an inspiring senior citizen >>>>>>>>>> program". In other words, I find that other than this shallow >>>>>>>>>> knowledge >>>>>>>>>> *of* programs, the actual knowlege of *how* they really run is very >>>>>>>>>> little. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Now, it may as well be something that only bothers me. If so, >>>>>>>>>> I'll continue to do what I can on my personal capacity. But if it's >>>>>>>>>> not, >>>>>>>>>> and other share the need for more details, then let's do something >>>>>>>>>> about - >>>>>>>>>> let's collabotatively think of standars for effectively reporting a >>>>>>>>>> project >>>>>>>>>> / initiative and change the discourse. These videos can be a step in >>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>> right direction. :-) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>>> Shani. >>>>>>>>>> Hello Shani, thanks for your work on this! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> As for the in-depth discussions, my view is that 20 minutes is >>>>>>>>>> too much to explain and discuss a single program. I'd give it a >>>>>>>>>> maximum of >>>>>>>>>> 10 minutes but that's just my personal view. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> It would be very nice to have and official promotional video >>>>>>>>>> featuring the global education activities. At the same, the global >>>>>>>>>> nature >>>>>>>>>> of our projects means that it will take a lot of time and cost a lot >>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>> money to capture more than just 1-2 programs. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Vojtěch Dostál >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> předseda rady / chairman of the board >>>>>>>>>> Wikimedia Česká republika / Wikimedia Czech Republic >>>>>>>>>> http://www.wikimedia.cz >>>>>>>>>> Facebook <https://www.facebook.com/Wikimedia.CR> | Twitter >>>>>>>>>> <https://twitter.com/Wikimedia_CR> | Newsletter >>>>>>>>>> <http://eepurl.com/FsHJr> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 2015-11-28 16:42 GMT+01:00 Shani <[email protected]>: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hello, Collab enthusiasts! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 1 - I've just sent out a doodle for the coming *2 hangouts for >>>>>>>>>>> December & January*. >>>>>>>>>>> Since part of Dec includes holidays and some of us will be >>>>>>>>>>> vacationing, it would be good to schedule these two dates advance. >>>>>>>>>>> Please fill out the doodle by next Saturday (Dec 6th) so we can >>>>>>>>>>> schedule a final meeting time as soon as possible. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 2 - Following a remark Paola made during our last meeting about >>>>>>>>>>> a need for an in-depth discussions about various topics, I'd like to >>>>>>>>>>> propose using our monthly meeting in a new way. I was thinking we >>>>>>>>>>> can use >>>>>>>>>>> the first 20 minutes of each meeting to showcase a specific project >>>>>>>>>>> / >>>>>>>>>>> initiative from around the world. Something in the lines of a 15 >>>>>>>>>>> minute >>>>>>>>>>> explanation about the project and 5 minutes for questions. >>>>>>>>>>> I believe having more than a minute to share our experiences >>>>>>>>>>> will benefit everyone. >>>>>>>>>>> I also suggest that at least these parts of our meeting will be >>>>>>>>>>> recorded and then uploaded as a YouTube video. Recording doesn't >>>>>>>>>>> have to be >>>>>>>>>>> via "hangout on air". We can simply use a screen-capture software >>>>>>>>>>> for that >>>>>>>>>>> part of the session. The idea is that we have a growing database of >>>>>>>>>>> wiki-edu case reports, some might probably be best practices, but >>>>>>>>>>> even if >>>>>>>>>>> they are not, people can learn from anything that happens, from >>>>>>>>>>> things that >>>>>>>>>>> do not work as well as things that do work. In short, videos are an >>>>>>>>>>> important educational tool. There is no reason why we should >>>>>>>>>>> document only >>>>>>>>>>> in a written form on outreach. We can use other sources and link >>>>>>>>>>> them on >>>>>>>>>>> outreach. I think this is something practical the collab can do to >>>>>>>>>>> promote >>>>>>>>>>> awareness. >>>>>>>>>>> *What do you say..? Is this something you'd like us to do during >>>>>>>>>>> our meetings?* >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 3 - And one last suggestion, which is *practically directed at >>>>>>>>>>> the WMF team, but again, I'd love to hear everyone's thoughts about* >>>>>>>>>>> -- with Education been such a focus globally in many chapters and >>>>>>>>>>> the WMF >>>>>>>>>>> itself, would it be possible to harness Victor, the WMF's official >>>>>>>>>>> story-teller, to create a sort of "formal" video about what the Wiki >>>>>>>>>>> Education program is? Similar to what was done for Wikipedia Zero, >>>>>>>>>>> or a few >>>>>>>>>>> days ago for the Erasmus prize? I think it's something we really >>>>>>>>>>> need and >>>>>>>>>>> can be used worldwide (with subtitles) to promote what it is that >>>>>>>>>>> we are >>>>>>>>>>> doing here. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for bearing with me with all my thoughts today.. :) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Have a great weekend, everyone! >>>>>>>>>>> Shani. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 28, 2015 at 5:19 PM, Shani Evenstein (via Doodle) < >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Shani Evenstein invites you to participate in the Doodle poll >>>>>>>>>>>> "Scheduling the Wiki-EDU Collab Monthly Meetings: Dec 2015 + Jan." >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> <https://doodle.com/?tmail=poll_invitecontact_participant_invitation_with_message&tlink=logo> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi there, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Shani Evenstein ([email protected]) invites you to >>>>>>>>>>>> participate in the Doodle poll "Scheduling the Wiki-EDU Collab >>>>>>>>>>>> Monthly Meetings: Dec 2015 + Jan." >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, Collab members, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> This Doodle is for us to schedule our next *2* Wiki-EDU Collab >>>>>>>>>>>> Monthly Meeting, for both December 2015 & January 2016. >>>>>>>>>>>> Please mark the dates you can make it so we can set the time in >>>>>>>>>>>> advance. >>>>>>>>>>>> These meetings are not mandatory, but we would love to meet as >>>>>>>>>>>> many of you as possible online. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>>>>>>> Shani & the WMF's EDU team. >>>>>>>>>>>> Participate now >>>>>>>>>>>> <https://doodle.com/poll/2s6r7pw44dqtuddw?tmail=poll_invitecontact_participant_invitation_with_message&tlink=pollbtn> >>>>>>>>>>>> What is Doodle? 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