Hi all,

I recently switched from Mint to Linux Mint Debian Edition and can vouch for 
it, it's very polished and stable.

Best,
Hamish

On 10 March 2025 09:24:08 GMT, Tim <t...@windriders.co.uk> wrote:
>Hi James
>
>If you are looking at the Mint, then Mint has a Debian version you could try. 
>While I have not used it for a while it is the same as the other version of 
>Mint but built on Debian rather than Ubuntu
>
>https://www.linuxmint.com/download_lmde.php
>
>You get a polished version of Debian with the ease of Mint
>
>Tim H
>
>
>On 10/03/2025 07:04, James Crowfoot wrote:
>> Thanks, That is really helpful,
>> I am planning to use it for home and everyday use on my laptop.
>> I think that arch is a bit too complex for my needs, Mint will probably
>> give me the smoother transition and looks nicer from stock compared to
>> debian which I am more familiar with however.
>> 
>> On Sat, 8 Mar 2025 at 09:18, Ralph Corderoy <ra...@inputplus.co.uk> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello James,
>>> 
>>> I've seen you've popped up on the IRC channel when the few of us that
>>> linger there have been ‘away from keyboard’ so it's nice to finally talk
>>> to you.
>>> 
>>>> At some point in the future I am planning on switching from windows 11
>>>> to linux but I am not sure what distro to go for.
>>>> I'm most familiar with debian, through raspberry pi os, but also
>>>> either mint or ubuntu are also on the table.
>>> I think the answers from Tim, Rhys, and Terry nicely cover some
>>> different things to consider, and having used Raspberry Pi's Debian
>>> spin-off you'll be familiar with some of them, but they were a bit
>>> implicit, so I'll list them.
>>> 
>>> - Unlike Microsoft Windows, a Linux distro tends to have a lot more
>>>    swappable parts.  Three interesting layers are:
>>> 
>>>      - The kernel which marshals the hardware and arbitrates requests to
>>>        access it from the programs above.  Most users don't find
>>>        sufficient here to distinguish one distro from another, though
>>>        some more unusual bits of hardware may need a particular kernel
>>>        module for support.
>>> 
>>>      - The distro's preperation of software for easy install of a new
>>>        program as a ‘package’, and the other packages it depends on.
>>>        Then keeping installed packages up to date with upgrades.
>>> 
>>>        The two main flavours of package managers are APT, from Debian,
>>>        and DNF, from Fedora.  I'm not sure there's much to choose between
>>>        them as competition worked its magic.
>>> 
>>>      - The graphical desktop interface is the key one in many users'
>>>        eyes.  Terry uses the Kubuntu distro which is the KDE desktop on
>>>        Ubuntu.  There are many desktop environments, and they can each be
>>>        installed as a package at the same time, at the cost of disk
>>>        space.  The graphical log-in prompt for username and password
>>>        normally provides a menu of the available ones to choose from for
>>>        that one session.
>>> 
>>>        So don't think plain Ubuntu with its default of the GNOME desktop
>>>        means KDE is out of reach.  Or the lightweight XFCE, or a tiling
>>>        window manager like i3 plus other parts of your choosing.  You can
>>>        experiment with different desktops without switching distro as
>>>        most provide all the main ones.
>>> 
>>> - Hardware compatibility used to be a significant hurdle in Linux's
>>>    earlier days, and can still cause more minor problems like getting the
>>>    audio working, etc., as new chips are continuously arriving on the
>>>    market.  A ‘live’ version of a distro lets you boot from a USB drive
>>>    to check how much of the hardware works before installation.
>>> 
>>>    Searching for your model of PC or motherboard along with ‘Linux
>>>    compatibility’ may also show up those who have walked the same path
>>>    before you.  The program ‘inxi’ run from a live distro can summarise
>>>    the hardware.
>>> 
>>> - The philosophy of the distribution.  Not just whether they're zealots
>>>    for an aspect of licensing, but what's their approach to releasing
>>>    updates.  Is it every six months on schedule, or when volunteer effort
>>>    means it's ready, or is it a rolling release where they're keen to get
>>>    an upstream release of a single program into their users' hands?
>>> 
>>> - The level of activity in the project.  Some have paid staff, others
>>>    are volunteer efforts, and some a mixture.  Do they have a means of
>>>    community you like: mailing list, IRC, web forum, ...  Is it active
>>>    enough: are others getting a thread of replies going to their
>>>    question?
>>> 
>>>                           ✻      ✻      ✻
>>> 
>>> Separate from all that, there's what do you want to use the distro for?
>>> Something you can forget about?  Or something to play, experiment, and
>>> learn through?  You've the mainstream ones, split by Debian or Fedora
>>> ancestry, and then the others like Arch Linux and its spin-offs.
>>> 
>>> Pure ‘Arch’ has a very manual installation process where you're left at
>>> the shell prompt of a root user and you work your way through setting up
>>> the network configuration, then installing just the packages you want
>>> using their ‘Pacman’ package manager: neither APT or DNF.  This may
>>> appeal if you like to learn how things are put together.  You can have
>>> a skim of the instructions without thinking of installing Arch.
>>> https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Installation_guide
>>> 
>>> I use Arch Linux at home.  On remote servers, especially for clients,
>>> where I want to ‘install and forget’, I go for Debian.  I'd be happy to
>>> use Ubuntu or Fedora if it was the client's wish.
>>> 
>>> Hope that helps.  Tell us what you decide and how you get on.  Feel free
>>> to ask this list questions.
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Cheers, Ralph.
>>> 
>
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