Thanks, That is really helpful,
I am planning to use it for home and everyday use on my laptop.
I think that arch is a bit too complex for my needs, Mint will probably
give me the smoother transition and looks nicer from stock compared to
debian which I am more familiar with however.

On Sat, 8 Mar 2025 at 09:18, Ralph Corderoy <ra...@inputplus.co.uk> wrote:

> Hello James,
>
> I've seen you've popped up on the IRC channel when the few of us that
> linger there have been ‘away from keyboard’ so it's nice to finally talk
> to you.
>
> > At some point in the future I am planning on switching from windows 11
> > to linux but I am not sure what distro to go for.
> > I'm most familiar with debian, through raspberry pi os, but also
> > either mint or ubuntu are also on the table.
>
> I think the answers from Tim, Rhys, and Terry nicely cover some
> different things to consider, and having used Raspberry Pi's Debian
> spin-off you'll be familiar with some of them, but they were a bit
> implicit, so I'll list them.
>
> - Unlike Microsoft Windows, a Linux distro tends to have a lot more
>   swappable parts.  Three interesting layers are:
>
>     - The kernel which marshals the hardware and arbitrates requests to
>       access it from the programs above.  Most users don't find
>       sufficient here to distinguish one distro from another, though
>       some more unusual bits of hardware may need a particular kernel
>       module for support.
>
>     - The distro's preperation of software for easy install of a new
>       program as a ‘package’, and the other packages it depends on.
>       Then keeping installed packages up to date with upgrades.
>
>       The two main flavours of package managers are APT, from Debian,
>       and DNF, from Fedora.  I'm not sure there's much to choose between
>       them as competition worked its magic.
>
>     - The graphical desktop interface is the key one in many users'
>       eyes.  Terry uses the Kubuntu distro which is the KDE desktop on
>       Ubuntu.  There are many desktop environments, and they can each be
>       installed as a package at the same time, at the cost of disk
>       space.  The graphical log-in prompt for username and password
>       normally provides a menu of the available ones to choose from for
>       that one session.
>
>       So don't think plain Ubuntu with its default of the GNOME desktop
>       means KDE is out of reach.  Or the lightweight XFCE, or a tiling
>       window manager like i3 plus other parts of your choosing.  You can
>       experiment with different desktops without switching distro as
>       most provide all the main ones.
>
> - Hardware compatibility used to be a significant hurdle in Linux's
>   earlier days, and can still cause more minor problems like getting the
>   audio working, etc., as new chips are continuously arriving on the
>   market.  A ‘live’ version of a distro lets you boot from a USB drive
>   to check how much of the hardware works before installation.
>
>   Searching for your model of PC or motherboard along with ‘Linux
>   compatibility’ may also show up those who have walked the same path
>   before you.  The program ‘inxi’ run from a live distro can summarise
>   the hardware.
>
> - The philosophy of the distribution.  Not just whether they're zealots
>   for an aspect of licensing, but what's their approach to releasing
>   updates.  Is it every six months on schedule, or when volunteer effort
>   means it's ready, or is it a rolling release where they're keen to get
>   an upstream release of a single program into their users' hands?
>
> - The level of activity in the project.  Some have paid staff, others
>   are volunteer efforts, and some a mixture.  Do they have a means of
>   community you like: mailing list, IRC, web forum, ...  Is it active
>   enough: are others getting a thread of replies going to their
>   question?
>
>                          ✻      ✻      ✻
>
> Separate from all that, there's what do you want to use the distro for?
> Something you can forget about?  Or something to play, experiment, and
> learn through?  You've the mainstream ones, split by Debian or Fedora
> ancestry, and then the others like Arch Linux and its spin-offs.
>
> Pure ‘Arch’ has a very manual installation process where you're left at
> the shell prompt of a root user and you work your way through setting up
> the network configuration, then installing just the packages you want
> using their ‘Pacman’ package manager: neither APT or DNF.  This may
> appeal if you like to learn how things are put together.  You can have
> a skim of the instructions without thinking of installing Arch.
> https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Installation_guide
>
> I use Arch Linux at home.  On remote servers, especially for clients,
> where I want to ‘install and forget’, I go for Debian.  I'd be happy to
> use Ubuntu or Fedora if it was the client's wish.
>
> Hope that helps.  Tell us what you decide and how you get on.  Feel free
> to ask this list questions.
>
> --
> Cheers, Ralph.
>
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