The TL;DR: Creating an external AOOAuthors GitHub project for deriving 
documentation of current AOO releases is not difficult.  Many of us could do 
that.   It just takes some minimal initial organization and agreement on the 
contributor mechanism, working languages, etc.  

At some point soon, this discussion should move off of doc @ oo.a.o.  It might 
be valuable to have some threads on the AOO Community Forum, 
<https://forum.openoffice.org/>.  There also needs to be agreement on the 
working language(s) of an AOOAuthors project.  

I am waiting for Keith to say what approach he wants to see.    Readers of doc 
@ oo.a.o could also say what they would be willing to work on.  Then we can act 
jointly.

DETAILS

The ASF restriction on CC licensed material has to do with ASF Project 
source-code repositories.  There is an exception for GPL, CC-by, and other 
licenses if reliance on such artifacts is optional and the artifacts are 
fetched and included in the build process, never housed in an ASF Project repo. 
 Note that this is about ASF Project governance.  The ASF has principled 
project requirements beyond those of the Apache License itself.  (The 
preservation of OO.o documentation at 
<https://www.openoffice.org/documentation/> Is a variant on this idea.)

In the case of documentation projects and their repositories, the exception is 
not workable.  However, using an off-project repository employed outside of and 
*independent* of the AOO Project accomplishes the same purpose.  The 
independence is important: there should be no accountability of the project to 
the AOO PMC and especially in AOO reports to the ASF Board beyond mentioning 
the existence of such a project.  Note that this already happens with 
extensions and templates where user selects them and they have varied licenses. 
 

The independent-(GitHub-)project avenue, if still being pursued for making AOO 
user documentation, is equivalent to how OooAuthors was external to 
OpenOffice.org and how Jean Weber's User Guide would be external and, in this 
case, a personal project. 

As a fork of OooAuthors documents, an AOOAuthors project need not maintain dual 
licensing of the derivative AOO 4.x documentation.  With appropriate 
notification and attribution of the original OOO documentation the results 
could be offered under CC-BY unported, for example.  That might be more 
palatable for AOO contributors that also become AOOAuthors contributors. 
Whatever the license choice(s), that has to be resolved immediately so that 
contributors know what their license commitment must be.  And for the CC-BY 
case, specific attribution requirements should be in the front manner of the 
derived documents.

There also needs to be enough AOOAuthors documentation of AOOAuthors so that 
people can learn how to follow the effort and how to contribute to it.

 - Dennis


-----Original Message-----
From: Jean Weber <jeanwe...@gmail.com> 
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2021 23:59
To: doc@openoffice.apache.org
Subject: Re: New Doc Volunteer

AOO does not allow CC licensed material. That's a major part of the problem of 
reuse. However, the body of documentation is also licensed under GPL, which is 
sort-of allowed, with restrictions.

Jean
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