Bob,

On Thu, Mar 6, 2025 at 12:05 PM Bob Harold <rharo...@umich.edu> wrote:

>
> On Thu, Mar 6, 2025 at 1:44 PM Victor Zhou <z...@namefi.io> wrote:
>
>>
>>> We already have a problem with too many TXT records with the same name
>>> used for different purposes.   SPF, various validations, and who knows what
>>> else are all at the same name.   Could we do instead:
>>> _RFCxxxx.domain.name  IN  TXT "<data>"
>>>
>>> That reduces the packet size and the amount of records that the
>>> application has to process and discard, since it will only ask for its own
>>> records.
>>>
>>
>> Agree with you Bob that this is an important decision (whether to do it
>> subdomain or as apex), I can include your feedback in the updated RFC,
>>
>> Here is what I think the tradeoffs of each: (please correct me as wrong)
>>
>> - Subdomain approach (`_rfcxxx.domain.name IN TEXT "<data>"`) is usually
>> managed in a zone *under* `domain.name`, making it more separate, and
>> less spammy, and enable larger numbers of records
>>
>
> The subdomain records would typically be in the same zone.  They *can" be
> separated into another zone, if desired.
>


>
>> - Apex TXT approach is usually managed in the zone *of* `domain.name`,
>> making it easier to manage, and if the parent zone want to delegate child
>> zone out, having apex TXT record method doesn't interfere with that too.
>>
>
> It would be impossible to delegate TXT records as a separate zone in this
> case.  They are in the same zone as the 'domain.name' and whatever other
> records that name has.
>


Yes to what you said, Bob.

What I wanted to highlight a possible consideration is that from the
perspective of "name" TLD (in our `_rfcxxx.domain.name` example), the `
domain.name` is usually delegating to the zone of `domain.name` (SLD). apex
TXT is always associated with whoever manages `domain.name`. But _
rfcxxx.domain.name is managed by whoever zone manages _rfcxxx.domain.name,
it could be the same zone of domain.name but also could be its own. One
potential unintended consequence may be people starting to use different RR
types for _rfcxxx.domain.name or even subdomains under <foo>._
rfcxxx.domain.name. This  potential unintended consequence may be good and
may be bad.

I am personally open to either way. My plan is to present this pending
decision in RFC to the WG and ask for a preferred option.


> --
> Bob Harold
>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Bob Harold
>>>
>>>
>>
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