Am Sonntag, 21. Oktober 2018 schrieb Martin Steigerwald: > Steve Litt - 20.10.18, 03:55: > > Some folks are asking for automatic sysvinit init script generation, > > or else unit file to sysvinit init script converters. Some are asking > > Devuan's developers to prioritize their scarce programmer resources > > to modifying sysvinit, which is over 30 years old. Yet others think > > we should reimplement all the systemd functions in the Unix paradigm. > > > > Stop the madness!
[…] > How would it be to let the past be in the past… how would it to be let > go of all the hurting each other and the blaming each other? The past is > gone. Now both sysvinit and Systemd are there. That is just how it is. > So instead of convincing those who use Systemd that it is bad, evil, and > what else not, how about spending time to work on the alternatives like > having sysvinit maintained again *and* supporting runit in Devuan? > > How would it look like if we all just accept that some like to use > Systemd and some do not like to use or install it? Everyone for their > own reasons with themselves are neither inherently right or wrong. > > As the sysvinit maintenance thing popped up as a discussion in Debian I > see the wonderful opportunity to work together. KatolaZ kindly offered > to help with maintaining sysvinit, Ian Jackson already offered to upload > changes of Debian sysvinit package, there is a debian-init-diversity > mailing list, focusing on discussing this work. And while there are some > people… both in Devuan and Debian who seem to enjoy recreating the past > with all the suffering again, there are also people who just go for: > > What can we do now to improve the situation for everyone? What can we do > if we let go of the drama and focus on what is here *now*? > > The past is gone. It is over. It is just a memory. It by itself does not > exist. > > Now there is the opportunity for a first light form of cooperation > between Debian and Devuan and to learn to co-exist in peace with each > other. To channel all the energy – a huge lot, if you ask me – spent to > fight against each other to get some work done that will benefit both > Devuan and Debian. > > What happens if we let go of the drama and get on with life again? > > Wonderful times, if you ask me. And nothing, at all, to be worried > about. > > I fully get it, the drama has been exciting and interesting. A star > performance so to say. The rebels against the empire or vice versa – > without it even being clear on who played which role. But it never wrote > a single line of code or helped even a tiny bit with maintaining a > package. > > So are you ready to just let go of it… and move on with whatever is > really important to you? Are you ready to focus on what you self can do, > instead of insisting to control how other people spend their time? > > Thanks for listening. > > Best, Well said, Martin, that's quite close to the name of your domain! :-) Kind regards, Stefan _______________________________________________ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
