I want to add my thoughts and feelings to this conversation. But since this is my first message to this list, here're a few links of my tips, user-to-user (I'm not an expert and I'm just a fraction of a programmer if at all), [user-to-user] tips:
Grsecurity/Pax installation on Debian GNU/Linux http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=108616 How to Remove Systemd and Related Packages from Your Debian http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=118197 How to avoid stealth installation of systemd? http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=116770 And I'll stick one link below exactly where there is a special line, in this thread I'm replying to, that touched a nerve in my guts. But I am more of a Gentoo user still (since 2008, Debian since 2013 I think). Such as: Air-Gapped Gentoo Install, Tentative https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-987268.html Uninstalling dbus and *kits (to Unfacilitate Remote Seats) https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-992146.html I'm not giving you those links for no reason. While I am not a programmer, or am just minimally one, I have extensive user (of late it has become advanced user) experience with censorship and even surveillance that a user, in a country ruled by a regime, is exposed to (have unveiled it for everybody to see, and will give another two links below exactly where there is a special line that touched a nerve in my guts). On Thu, Mar 05, 2015 at 03:28:59AM -0500, Gravis wrote: > Nik, please remove yourself from the mailing list. > --Gravis Completely wrong, as attitude and even as merely a wish! Somebody stated elsewhere in these few days on this list: it's free software, and it's open source! Contrary from banning other people's opinions, we must allow them. I agree completely with Nick, but I won't jump on you Gravis, as I don't jump on some Gentoo members who, well, support NSA, and troll against me... I'll let them like SELinux, Google and other stuff which I despise! As long as they let me tell other members what I think and suggest of SELinux, Google and stuff! And tell what I advise that they use and generally do! > > On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 3:11 AM, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp <dr.kl...@gmx.at> wrote: > > Am Donnerstag, 5. März 2015 schrieb Gravis: > >> > Here is just one example of what I am referring to. > >> > http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jun/06/us-tech-giants-nsa-data > >> > >> yeah, if you actually read the article you will learn that google > >> (like everyone else) complies with the law. if you look further, you > >> learn that the NSA tapped private fiber lines for both google and > >> yahoo. so what exactly did google do to offend you? Don't know about Nick, but I can tell what they did to offend *me*: Really? The Surveillance Engine Terminated All My Videos http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=113059 And this is where they let the local regime do what they like against me: a clickjacking that only packets captured show: Postfix smtp/TLS, Bkp/Cloning Mthd, Censorship/Intrusion https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-999436.html#7685200 and: brute mess-up of my connection: Air-Gapped Gentoo Install, Tentative https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-987268-start-25.html#7552466 (identified the files right after it happened back in 2014, revealed all only these days) How about that, Gravis? The good do-no-evil Google? Ruining 5 yrs of my work? And the other two links are just samples of pranks and filthy routines from my nearly everyday life with my dear regime online? NOTE: All the links above I've checked before posting, barring future double-check report on any that was not right, further down this email thread. For future readers from the archives. > >>is your > >> objection that they were hacked by the NSA or that they strong armed > >> by the NSA? > >> > >> > >> > > reporting child pornography to the FBI as legally required by law? > >> > I don't understand where you got child pornography from. > >> > >> you wrote "considering their ties to government agencies" and the FBI > >> is a government agency. > >> --Gravis > > > > Sorry, no. FBI, NSA and US as a whole is a hostile government. Cooperation > > is forbidden by law (at least for normal citizens). Please do a > > realitycheck outside US. > > Right! Cooperation is against Free Open Source Software natural laws and declared customs! > > Nik > > > > -- > > Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing > > with the NSA. > > I really like this line! > > _______________________________________________ > > Dng mailing list > > Dng@lists.dyne.org > > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng > _______________________________________________ > Dng mailing list > Dng@lists.dyne.org > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng Pls. bear in mind, if I'm missing to reply to you (but I might be late, my health is unstable and I generally work slowly, old age)... [If I'm missing to reply to you], it could be another prank of my dear regime... And greetings here to golinux, who is a fine person, and you know, golinux, I miss edbarx, keithpeter and other who conversed met with on Debian Forums, and I hope many of them will soon join us in Devuan. -- Miroslav Rovis Zagreb, Croatia http://www.CroatiaFidelis.hr
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