Cal, He's not looking to automate the install for the Developer of a Django Project, but for the End Users of a Django Project.
So if I, or another developer wrote a WordPress clone using Django and then allow a third party to come and download my Wordpress clone and easily install it. On Thursday, September 8, 2011 at 7:52 AM, Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd] wrote: > The subject of self contained deployments has already been *heavily* > discussed in other threads. Self contained / single binary deployments is > something that Roberto @ UNBIT is currently working on (and myself), and if > you do a search on the mailing list, you'll see tons of ideas on this > already. And believe me, it's not as simple as it may seem. (consider cross > OS libs, file system loaders etc). > > Secondly, the OP said the following things are wrong: > > - Doesn't cater to people who don't know Python > This is absolutely absurd, Django is a *python web framework*. > > - Requires the installer to be a developer (pretty much) > Again, the developer would be the one 'creating' the project. If they didn't > understand the concepts behind how to make django talk to a webapp server, > then they need to learn. Simple. > > Without being too rude, if you are looking to automate the install of a > framework, then you need to understand what the framework does. I am > completely against your proposed concept, because you are attempting to take > away the *need to understand* how things work. > > Cal > > > On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 12:37 PM, Donald Stufft <donald.stu...@gmail.com > (mailto:donald.stu...@gmail.com)> wrote: > > This is a hard question. It would probably be nice to offer a self > > contained deployment that nginx/apache could just proxy too, maybe pick > > that as the default, and then add in writing a fcgi or wsgi file for use > > with regular hosting. > > > > On Thursday, September 8, 2011 at 7:34 AM, graeme wrote: > > > > > He wants to be able to emulate the installation of a typical PHP CMS. > > > This is often 1) get database username and poassword, 2) copyfiles to > > > server, 3) navigate to an install URL, 4) fill in db username and > > > password and other config on a set of forms on web page. > > > > > > Installing Django and the app you want to use is much more complex and > > > forbidding requiring use of the command line and editing settings.py. > > > > > > One question is what server configurations this will support. > > > mod_wsgi? fastcgi? others? Will this type of user be able to pick the > > > right choice? > > > > > > On Sep 8, 12:45 am, Calvin Spealman <ironfro...@gmail.com > > > (http://gmail.com)> wrote: > > > > Can you explain to those of us to whom it is not obvious, what is the > > > > point of this proposal? I don't understand what problem it would > > > > solve. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 10:41 AM, Alec Taylor <alec.tayl...@gmail.com > > > > (http://gmail.com)> wrote: > > > > > Good morning, > > > > > > > > > I have just recently starting migrating over from WordPress and > > > > > Drupal to > > > > > the world of DJango. > > > > > > > > > First of all, let me say that yes, I am aware that DJango is not a > > > > > CMS!!! > > > > > > > > > Now, onto my suggestions on how to streamline DJango deployment. > > > > > ____ > > > > > > > > > = What's wrong with the current method? = > > > > > > > > > • Doesn't cater to people who don't know Python > > > > > • Requires the installer to be a developer (pretty much) > > > > > ____ > > > > > > > > > I'm building a social-network catering to student-groups, > > > > > users-groups and > > > > > game-clans. I will be releasing this under (probably) the New BSD > > > > > license. > > > > > Because I want as many people as possible to be able to use this > > > > > project, I > > > > > want to make it very easy for non-developers to setup this > > > > > social-network on > > > > > there servers. > > > > > ____ > > > > > > > > > = What are you suggesting? = > > > > > > > > > A four-step install process. > > > > > • Install pre-packaged Python+DJango-script package > > > > > •http://i53.tinypic.com/2055fg8.png > > > > > •http://i55.tinypic.com/e8lgtg.png > > > > > •http://i55.tinypic.com/o0qiow.png > > > > > •http://i55.tinypic.com/o0qiow.png > > > > > ____ > > > > > > > > > What are your thoughts on the DJango deployment redesign? > > > > > > > > > Would anyone be interested in getting involved (making this happen!)? > > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > > > > Alec Taylor > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > > > > Groups > > > > > "Django users" group. > > > > > To view this discussion on the web visit > > > > > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/django-users/-/_b3bjdPN5_AJ. > > > > > To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com > > > > > (mailto:django-users@googlegroups.com). > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > > > django-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > > > > > (mailto:django-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com). > > > > > For more options, visit this group at > > > > > http://groups.google.com/group/django-users?hl=en. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Read my blog! 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