Also, my apologies to OP for misunderstanding his original request :) Cal
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 1:26 PM, Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd] < cal.leem...@simplicitymedialtd.co.uk> wrote: > Again - that subject has already been heavily discussed and is already a > work in progress :X > > Automating the install for the end user is not a simple task - unless you > want to go down the VM Appliance route. > > See the following threads: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/django-users@googlegroups.com/msg122921.html > http://lists.unbit.it/pipermail/uwsgi/2011-July/002420.html > > Time would be better spent focusing on contributing to efforts already > spent in this area. > > Hope this helps. > > Cal > > > On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 12:57 PM, Donald Stufft <donald.stu...@gmail.com>wrote: > >> Cal, >> >> He's not looking to automate the install for the Developer of a Django >> Project, but for the End Users of a Django Project. >> >> So if I, or another developer wrote a WordPress clone using Django and >> then allow a third party to come and download my Wordpress clone and easily >> install it. >> >> On Thursday, September 8, 2011 at 7:52 AM, Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media >> Ltd] wrote: >> >> The subject of self contained deployments has already been *heavily* >> discussed in other threads. Self contained / single binary deployments is >> something that Roberto @ UNBIT is currently working on (and myself), and if >> you do a search on the mailing list, you'll see tons of ideas on this >> already. And believe me, it's not as simple as it may seem. (consider cross >> OS libs, file system loaders etc). >> >> Secondly, the OP said the following things are wrong: >> >> - Doesn't cater to people who don't know Python >> This is absolutely absurd, Django is a *python web framework*. >> >> - Requires the installer to be a developer (pretty much) >> Again, the developer would be the one 'creating' the project. If they >> didn't understand the concepts behind how to make django talk to a webapp >> server, then they need to learn. Simple. >> >> Without being too rude, if you are looking to automate the install of a >> framework, then you need to understand what the framework does. I am >> completely against your proposed concept, because you are attempting to take >> away the *need to understand* how things work. >> >> Cal >> >> >> On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 12:37 PM, Donald Stufft >> <donald.stu...@gmail.com>wrote: >> >> This is a hard question. It would probably be nice to offer a self >> contained deployment that nginx/apache could just proxy too, maybe pick that >> as the default, and then add in writing a fcgi or wsgi file for use with >> regular hosting. >> >> On Thursday, September 8, 2011 at 7:34 AM, graeme wrote: >> >> He wants to be able to emulate the installation of a typical PHP CMS. >> This is often 1) get database username and poassword, 2) copyfiles to >> server, 3) navigate to an install URL, 4) fill in db username and >> password and other config on a set of forms on web page. >> >> Installing Django and the app you want to use is much more complex and >> forbidding requiring use of the command line and editing settings.py. >> >> One question is what server configurations this will support. >> mod_wsgi? fastcgi? others? Will this type of user be able to pick the >> right choice? >> >> On Sep 8, 12:45 am, Calvin Spealman <ironfro...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Can you explain to those of us to whom it is not obvious, what is the >> point of this proposal? I don't understand what problem it would >> solve. >> >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 10:41 AM, Alec Taylor <alec.tayl...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> Good morning, >> >> >> I have just recently starting migrating over from WordPress and Drupal to >> the world of DJango. >> >> >> First of all, let me say that yes, I am aware that DJango is not a CMS!!! >> >> >> Now, onto my suggestions on how to streamline DJango deployment. >> ____ >> >> >> = What's wrong with the current method? = >> >> >> • Doesn't cater to people who don't know Python >> • Requires the installer to be a developer (pretty much) >> ____ >> >> >> I'm building a social-network catering to student-groups, users-groups and >> game-clans. I will be releasing this under (probably) the New BSD license. >> Because I want as many people as possible to be able to use this project, >> I >> want to make it very easy for non-developers to setup this social-network >> on >> there servers. >> ____ >> >> >> = What are you suggesting? = >> >> >> A four-step install process. >> • Install pre-packaged Python+DJango-script package >> •http://i53.tinypic.com/2055fg8.png >> •http://i55.tinypic.com/e8lgtg.png >> •http://i55.tinypic.com/o0qiow.png >> •http://i55.tinypic.com/o0qiow.png >> ____ >> >> >> What are your thoughts on the DJango deployment redesign? >> >> >> Would anyone be interested in getting involved (making this happen!)? >> >> >> Best regards, >> >> >> Alec Taylor >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Django users" group. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/django-users/-/_b3bjdPN5_AJ. >> To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> django-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/django-users?hl=en. >> >> >> -- >> Read my blog! 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