On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 7:32 PM, David Lang <da...@lang.hm> wrote:

> On Sun, 8 Feb 2015, Derek J. Balling wrote:
>
>  - - Conferences
>>         they do them better than LOPSA does
>>
>
> do they? They do them bigger than LOPSA does, and they are far more
> expensive to attend. But does that make them better or just serving a
> different group of people?
>
> Also, the Usenix conferences have been struggling over the years, even
> with their name recognition. I was at the Usnix conference where things got
> so bad they ended up holding the entire conference in one room. It was
> admittedly a large room with more attendees than the LOPSA conferences
> have, but a substantial percentage of those attendees were paper pesenters
> (of which Usenix has a lot more of than LOPSA)
>
> The LISA conference is still going well (but even it is shrinking), but
> the annual tech conference seems like it's little more than paper
> presenters listening to each other's papers. A far cry from where it used
> to be when paper presentations were just one of a half dozen different
> tracks. I'll admit that I've only been to one of these since they
> reconfigured annual tech to combine all the minor conferences together, but
> looking at the schedules since then doesn't give me any reason to believe
> that it's changed.
>

Are you sure about that? I just went to LISA14, and recall the buzz being
that it's been growing for the past couple of years (basically that it got
hit hard after the financial issues in 2008 but has been growing since).

Also, if LISA14 was a reduction in conference size, I'd say that it NEEDS
to shrink.... because there were way too many people there and far too many
interesting things to do. I was there the whole week and barely felt like I
scratched the surface.


> Spending $5K (plus hotel and travel) for a conference involves a very
> different group than a couple hundred dollars does.
>
> We also have people teaching at other conferences. More involement, both
> in visible areas and is support/organization of other conferences would be
> a good thing.
>
> An example of a conference that LOPSA has been teaching at is Scale
> (Southern California Linux Expo), taking place in LA next week where there
> will probably be almost 3K people with an attendence fee of $70 that has
> completely sold out the hotel (with 50% off discounts being readily
> available).
>
> It takes time for an organization to grow a conference, especially if it's
> not a vendor conference (where you need to go to it if you are spending 6-7
> figures on the vendors software and the conference expenses are trivial by
> comparison). How have the LOPSA conferences been going? have they being
> growing or shrinking?
>
> David Lang
>
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