On Sun, 8 Feb 2015, Derek J. Balling wrote:

- - Conferences
        they do them better than LOPSA does

do they? They do them bigger than LOPSA does, and they are far more expensive to attend. But does that make them better or just serving a different group of people?

Also, the Usenix conferences have been struggling over the years, even with their name recognition. I was at the Usnix conference where things got so bad they ended up holding the entire conference in one room. It was admittedly a large room with more attendees than the LOPSA conferences have, but a substantial percentage of those attendees were paper pesenters (of which Usenix has a lot more of than LOPSA)

The LISA conference is still going well (but even it is shrinking), but the annual tech conference seems like it's little more than paper presenters listening to each other's papers. A far cry from where it used to be when paper presentations were just one of a half dozen different tracks. I'll admit that I've only been to one of these since they reconfigured annual tech to combine all the minor conferences together, but looking at the schedules since then doesn't give me any reason to believe that it's changed.

Spending $5K (plus hotel and travel) for a conference involves a very different group than a couple hundred dollars does.

We also have people teaching at other conferences. More involement, both in visible areas and is support/organization of other conferences would be a good thing.

An example of a conference that LOPSA has been teaching at is Scale (Southern California Linux Expo), taking place in LA next week where there will probably be almost 3K people with an attendence fee of $70 that has completely sold out the hotel (with 50% off discounts being readily available).

It takes time for an organization to grow a conference, especially if it's not a vendor conference (where you need to go to it if you are spending 6-7 figures on the vendors software and the conference expenses are trivial by comparison). How have the LOPSA conferences been going? have they being growing or shrinking?

David Lang
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