Rhys Rhaven writes:
 >    We had a small betting pool to predict the replies to what I said.
 >    Try to reduce what I said into Cloud vs Not Cloud. Way to go Mr.
 >    Allbery, you bought my lunch.
 >    To better illustrate my point, here are two pictures. This next is
 >    SysAdmin "Automation" as it stands today (Canning Factory 1893). Notice
 >    the helpful tools, maybe got some timers down there, maybe some
 >    thermostats on the water tanks. This is how a lot of LOPSA sees the
 >    world. If only we could build a better hoist to automatically drop the
 >    cans in!

You really seem to have a bunch of stereotypes about LOPSA members that
are just not true.  For example, the idea that we're supposedly largely
stick-in-the-mud mainframe types who resistant to using automation in
their jobs.  The people I know in LOPSA are promoting modern automation
techniques and DevOps methodology.

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