I have to admit, I love the claim that systemd is "anti-Unix".  Isn't the
fact that systemd makes use of systems that exist already, like DBus and
udev, following the Unix philosophy of letting programs worry about their
own problem space?  The fact is, any system that is required to do system
management like this is going to have to touch more programs than most
greybeard Unix hackers would like, but it's sort of necessary.  What's the
alternative, every program writing their own shell script to start
themselves (which is pretty much what sysvinit does)?


On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 1:12 PM, Reindl Harald <h.rei...@thelounge.net>
wrote:

>
>
> Am 04.09.2014 um 17:11 schrieb Sérgio Basto:
> > since Fedora have some responsibility, unfortunately I think the group
> > have some valid reasons , systemd should be the replacement of
> > sysvinit  , a built in DHCP !? why ? and others integration like crontab
> > should be modular, for someone else could use his own crontab .
> > OTOH , the support of systemd is not good, we got bug opened and they
> > are ignored as nothing happens, as for example bug
> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1088619
> >
> >
> > [1] http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTc3OTM
>
> boycotting systemd after all the work is done to adopt services
> and now after it is included nearly in any distribution and the
> new features are widely used and *greatly* can improve security
>
> pure stupidity
>
> the group better should try to force systemd developers to make
> the existing codebase bugfree instead design new features and
> stop to ignore users complaints that they need other behavior
> and loggings than a systemd-dev
>
> thats all
>
> here we go as start:
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1088619
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1010572
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1072368#c3
>
>
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