Kevin,

It's all good but then in Plasma also you can install X11 session

On Wed, 9 Apr, 2025, 11:08 pm Kevin Kofler via devel, <
devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote:

> Jared K. Smith wrote:
> > On Wed, Apr 9, 2025 at 12:59 PM Kevin Kofler via devel <
> > devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote:
> >
> >> This crusade against X11 in Fedora needs to stop NOW!
> >>
> >
> > I'm not involved in this change -- but I take exception to your language
> > here.  I don't see this as a "crusade" (to use your word), I see this as
> > the GDM maintainers making a choice to support one way of doing things
> > instead of two.  Calling it a "crusade" (and the implications that word
> > brings) doesn't help foster friendly communications or trust within
> > Fedora.
>
> Maybe my choice of words was suboptimal. Please keep in mind that I am not
> a
> native English speaker. (But yes, it is true that I tend to use unfriendly
> wording when I get angry, and I apologize for that.)
>
> The point I was trying to make is: The problem is that this is not just
> one
> package making a choice. It is part of a greater scheme. See the removal
> of
> X11 support from KDE Plasma (which I then reintroduced as packages built
> from separate SRPMs, something I am also suggesting people do for GDM),
> the
> constant messaging that "X11 is deprecated" (partly by the same people
> both
> for the KDE and GNOME changes), etc. The goal of the effort is clearly to
> force people to use Wayland instead of X11 because it is the personal
> preference of some packagers and some upstreams. And that is what I
> perceived as a "crusade".
>
> Sorry if my use of that term has offended anybody here.
>
>         Kevin Kofler
>
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