Can we go ahead in time and let kevin to create the gdm-x11 package? We
already know how this is going to be:

- The SIG is going to say they don't have bandwidth, hands or time to
support tickets with problems for x11
- Kevin and a lot of us that still use X11 are going to say that this
change is Fedora specific not upstream
- The SIG is going to say that they don't block
- The whole conversation is going too FESCo
- FESCo is going to rule that the SIG can't block anyone to do what FLOSS
is supposed to be.
- Packages are going to be done and added.

I can't understand what anyone's problem with X11 is. If you don't like it,
fine, don't use it, but stop trying to put it out of Fedora when there are
still people out there using it. Like us in the i3 SIG.

Best regards,

El mié, 9 abr 2025 a las 15:21, Nishant Mishra (<nishantm...@gmail.com>)
escribió:

> Peter Boy ,
>
> In this case you are wrong 😒
>
> I have been a Fedora Contributor since Last 3 years
>
> On Thu, 10 Apr, 2025, 12:48 am Nishant Mishra, <nishantm...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Kevin it's for GDM and I have used GDM with X11
>>
>> On Thu, 10 Apr, 2025, 12:00 am Peter Boy Uni, <p...@uni-bremen.de> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> > Am 09.04.2025 um 19:19 schrieb Jared K. Smith <
>>> jsm...@fedoraproject.org>:
>>> >
>>> > but I take exception to your language here.  I don't see this as a
>>> "crusade" (to use your word), I see this as the GDM maintainers making a
>>> choice to support one way of doing things instead of two.  Calling it a
>>> "crusade" (and the implications that word brings) doesn't help foster
>>> friendly communications or trust within Fedora.
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm not even involved in Fedora Desktops. I gave up on Fedora and Gnome
>>> years ago.
>>>
>>> But I followed that discussion with interest. And there was in large
>>> parts nothing, absolutely nothing, of “friendly communication” or “trust
>>> within Fedora”. If I remember correctly, people from the SIG were excluded
>>> by majority vote. The term “crusade” is a fitting one. It was kind of
>>> “proselytizing”.
>>>
>>> And fortunately I can sit back and watch the Fedora desktop drama
>>> unfold.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
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