On Sun, 16 Feb 2025 at 15:41, Craig Russell <apache....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> My theory is that the notion of adding new podling committers has evolved and 
> that at some point the infra tool and secretary tool diverged. Some time mid 
> 2010s.

There is no indication that the Secretary tooling ever changed in this
respect; I looked back to the start of its history.

> I don't know how hard it would be to change workbench to use the same format 
> as infra tool, but it would save a bit of back-and-forth with secretary, 
> PPMC, and committer.

As I already wrote, if the PPMC handles the account request, then they
can do it all.

> Craig
>
>
> > On Feb 16, 2025, at 05:02, sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I've just noticed a commit to new-account-requests which included the 
> > fields:
> >
> > ...;incubator,iggy;incubator;....
> >
> > It appears this was added by the officers/acreq form.
> > The code implies that the first of the above fields is the list of
> > groups, and the second the PMC.
> >
> > Not sure why the Secretary version does not allow for this, but if the
> > account request is left to the (P)PMCs, the LDAP update should happen
> > automatically.
> >
> > Given that there is an easy work-round, and the future of Whimsy is in
> > doubt, I'm not sure it's worth making the change.
> >
> > Sebb
> >
> > On Sun, 16 Feb 2025 at 09:11, sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> On Sun, 16 Feb 2025 at 05:01, Craig Russell <apache....@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Was there some other way to identify podlings, like incubator-kie instead 
> >>> of just incubator?
> >>
> >> That would be a question for Infra, as they process the requests.
> >>
> >>> Craig
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> On Feb 15, 2025, at 15:53, sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Accounts are created by Infra, using the acreq/new-account-reqs.txt file.
> >>>>
> >>>> This is populated here:
> >>>>
> >>>> https://github.com/apache/whimsy/blob/55e2d4cee10bc71ff283e478fa91de749dc6d777/www/secretary/workbench/views/actions/icla.json.rb#L185
> >>>>
> >>>> AFAICT this has not changed in the last 9 years or so.
> >>>>
> >>>> I cannot find any evidence that Whimsy ever did anything different.
> >>>>
> >>>> On Sat, 15 Feb 2025 at 21:41, Craig Russell <apache....@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I recall that in times past, filing an ICLA for a voted committer on a 
> >>>>> podling would request an account with committer privileges to both 
> >>>>> incubator and the podling.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> That changed and now only incubator privileges are set for the new 
> >>>>> committer.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Was that change deliberate or a side effect of some tooling change? I 
> >>>>> do not see that the change is positive since it means more work for 
> >>>>> secretary and the PPMC members.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> WDYT?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Craig
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Craig L Russell
> >>>>> c...@apache.org
> >>>>>
> >>>
> >>> Craig L Russell
> >>> c...@apache.org
> >>>
>
> Craig L Russell
> c...@apache.org
>

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