My theory is that the notion of adding new podling committers has evolved and 
that at some point the infra tool and secretary tool diverged. Some time mid 
2010s. 

I don't know how hard it would be to change workbench to use the same format as 
infra tool, but it would save a bit of back-and-forth with secretary, PPMC, and 
committer.

Craig


> On Feb 16, 2025, at 05:02, sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I've just noticed a commit to new-account-requests which included the fields:
> 
> ...;incubator,iggy;incubator;....
> 
> It appears this was added by the officers/acreq form.
> The code implies that the first of the above fields is the list of
> groups, and the second the PMC.
> 
> Not sure why the Secretary version does not allow for this, but if the
> account request is left to the (P)PMCs, the LDAP update should happen
> automatically.
> 
> Given that there is an easy work-round, and the future of Whimsy is in
> doubt, I'm not sure it's worth making the change.
> 
> Sebb
> 
> On Sun, 16 Feb 2025 at 09:11, sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> On Sun, 16 Feb 2025 at 05:01, Craig Russell <apache....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Was there some other way to identify podlings, like incubator-kie instead 
>>> of just incubator?
>> 
>> That would be a question for Infra, as they process the requests.
>> 
>>> Craig
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Feb 15, 2025, at 15:53, sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Accounts are created by Infra, using the acreq/new-account-reqs.txt file.
>>>> 
>>>> This is populated here:
>>>> 
>>>> https://github.com/apache/whimsy/blob/55e2d4cee10bc71ff283e478fa91de749dc6d777/www/secretary/workbench/views/actions/icla.json.rb#L185
>>>> 
>>>> AFAICT this has not changed in the last 9 years or so.
>>>> 
>>>> I cannot find any evidence that Whimsy ever did anything different.
>>>> 
>>>> On Sat, 15 Feb 2025 at 21:41, Craig Russell <apache....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I recall that in times past, filing an ICLA for a voted committer on a 
>>>>> podling would request an account with committer privileges to both 
>>>>> incubator and the podling.
>>>>> 
>>>>> That changed and now only incubator privileges are set for the new 
>>>>> committer.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Was that change deliberate or a side effect of some tooling change? I do 
>>>>> not see that the change is positive since it means more work for 
>>>>> secretary and the PPMC members.
>>>>> 
>>>>> WDYT?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Craig
>>>>> 
>>>>> Craig L Russell
>>>>> c...@apache.org
>>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Craig L Russell
>>> c...@apache.org
>>> 

Craig L Russell
c...@apache.org

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