Have you tried setting the secondary_mode in parent.config? I think you want secondarymodE=1
Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 16, 2022, at 9:54 AM, Nick Dunkin <nick.dun...@vecima.com.invalid> > wrote: > > Hi John, > > My desire was to go to the secondary_parent list, if all servers in the > parent list return 404. Are you saying this is not possible? > > I can’t seem to get this use case working in my toy examples. > > Thanks > > Nick > > From: John Rushford <jjrushf...@gmail.com> > Date: Thursday, September 15, 2022 at 4:45 PM > To: dev@trafficserver.apache.org <dev@trafficserver.apache.org> > Subject: Re: Different parent rules for 404 vs 5xx or unavailable > You can bump that up to greater than 5 but just keep in mind that once all > parents are tried without success, an additional retry beyond the total > number of parents would result in a 502 response back to the client instead > of a 404 > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Sep 15, 2022, at 1:58 PM, Robert O Butts <r...@apache.org> wrote: >> >> Nick, if you're open to writing code, it wouldn't be overly difficult to >> modify the parent_select plugin to do what you want. >> >> https://github.com/apache/trafficserver/tree/master/plugins/experimental/parent_select >> https://docs.trafficserver.apache.org/en/latest/admin-guide/plugins/parent_select.en.html >> https://docs.trafficserver.apache.org/en/latest/admin-guide/files/strategies.yaml.en.html >> >> >>> On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 1:55 PM Nick Dunkin <nick.dun...@vecima.com.invalid> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi John, >>> >>> Thanks. >>> >>> But if I have 5 primary parents in “cluster A”, and 3 secondary parents in >>> “cluster B”, then there is no configuration that will get me to “cluster B’ >>> if the content is not available (404) on “cluster A”. Which is my problem >>> unfortunately. >>> >>> >>> I’d like to push that value of >>> >>> >>> >>> #define MAX_SIMPLE_RETRIES 5 >>> >>> in the code, and rebuild. Any reason that won’t work until I can create a >>> more robust solution? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Nick >>> >>> From: John Rushford <jjrushf...@gmail.com> >>> Date: Thursday, September 15, 2022 at 3:40 PM >>> To: dev@trafficserver.apache.org <dev@trafficserver.apache.org> >>> Subject: Re: Different parent rules for 404 vs 5xx or unavailable >>> Yes, max_simple retries should be no more than the total number of parents >>> -1. >>> >>> Let’s say that you have 5 parents and all 5 send back a 404, that’s what >>> it should be if none of the parents has the object. However, if you set >>> max_simple_retries greater than the total number of parents, the final >>> response would be a 502 because all parents were tried and no other parents >>> are available. So if you have a total of 5 parents, set max_simple_retries >>> to 4, >>> Number of parents - 1 >>> >>> John >>> >>>> On Sep 15, 2022, at 1:23 PM, Nick Dunkin <nick.dun...@vecima.com.INVALID> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi John, >>>> >>>> Thanks for the clarification. >>>> >>>> My short term mitigation is going to require me to increase the value of >>> max_simple_retries. This property is currently fixed in the code to a >>> maximum values of 5. Are you aware of any reason that I can’t safely >>> increase that maximum (in the code) to something like 8? My 404 responses >>> are expected to be very quick, so I’m not too concerned about the >>> cumulative timing implications that would occur in this rare failover use >>> case. >>>> >>>> Is there anything special about the upper bound value of 5 for this >>> max_simple_retries property? >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> >>>> Nick >>>> >>>> From: John Rushford <jjrushf...@gmail.com> >>>> Date: Thursday, September 15, 2022 at 2:53 PM >>>> To: dev@trafficserver.apache.org <dev@trafficserver.apache.org> >>>> Subject: Re: Different parent rules for 404 vs 5xx or unavailable >>>> Nick, >>>> >>>> Currently this is not supported a change would have to be made to >>> support it. >>>> >>>> John Rushford >>>> jrushf...@apache.org >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On Sep 15, 2022, at 10:14 AM, Nick Dunkin <nick.dun...@vecima.com.invalid> >>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> I have a parent.config rule that uses a primary and secondary set of >>> parents. >>>>> >>>>> Assuming a 404 from a parent in the primary list I would like to >>> immediately try a parent in the secondary parent list, but for a 5xx, or >>> connection error, I would like to first exhaust the primary list first, >>> before then trying the secondary. >>>>> >>>>> I would imagine this is a fairly common use case for cluster failover >>> behavior. i.e. “Content is HTTP 404 form cluster A, so go to cluster B” >>>>> >>>>> I am not able to get this use case working with the various options for >>> secondary_mode in parent.config (ATS ver 9.1.3). >>>>> >>>>> Please can anyone provide assistance? Maybe this use case is supported >>> with strategies.yaml? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks >>>>> >>>>> Nick >>>>> >>>>> Nick Dunkin >>>>> Director, Software Architecture >>>>> Manager – Architecture and New Product Introduction >>>>> o: +1 678.258.4071 >>>>> e: nick.dun...@vecima.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>