Nick, if you're open to writing code, it wouldn't be overly difficult to
modify the parent_select plugin to do what you want.

https://github.com/apache/trafficserver/tree/master/plugins/experimental/parent_select
https://docs.trafficserver.apache.org/en/latest/admin-guide/plugins/parent_select.en.html
https://docs.trafficserver.apache.org/en/latest/admin-guide/files/strategies.yaml.en.html


On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 1:55 PM Nick Dunkin <nick.dun...@vecima.com.invalid>
wrote:

> Hi John,
>
> Thanks.
>
> But if I have 5 primary parents in “cluster A”, and 3 secondary parents in
> “cluster B”, then there is no configuration that will get me to “cluster B’
> if the content is not available (404) on “cluster A”.  Which is my problem
> unfortunately.
>
>
> I’d like to push that value of
>
>
>
> #define MAX_SIMPLE_RETRIES 5
>
> in the code, and rebuild.  Any reason that won’t work until I can create a
> more robust solution?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Nick
>
> From: John Rushford <jjrushf...@gmail.com>
> Date: Thursday, September 15, 2022 at 3:40 PM
> To: dev@trafficserver.apache.org <dev@trafficserver.apache.org>
> Subject: Re: Different parent rules for 404 vs 5xx or unavailable
> Yes, max_simple retries should be no more than the total number of parents
> -1.
>
> Let’s say that you have 5 parents and all 5 send back a 404, that’s what
> it should be if none of the parents has the object.  However, if you set
> max_simple_retries greater than the total number of parents, the final
> response would be a 502 because all parents were tried and no other parents
> are available.  So if you have a total of 5 parents, set max_simple_retries
> to 4,
> Number of parents - 1
>
> John
>
> > On Sep 15, 2022, at 1:23 PM, Nick Dunkin <nick.dun...@vecima.com.INVALID>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi John,
> >
> > Thanks for the clarification.
> >
> > My short term mitigation is going to require me to increase the value of
> max_simple_retries.  This property is currently fixed in the code to a
> maximum values of 5.  Are you aware of any reason that I can’t safely
> increase that maximum (in the code) to something like 8?  My 404 responses
> are expected to be very quick, so I’m not too concerned about the
> cumulative timing implications that would occur in this rare failover use
> case.
> >
> > Is there anything special about the upper bound value of 5 for this
> max_simple_retries property?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Nick
> >
> > From: John Rushford <jjrushf...@gmail.com>
> > Date: Thursday, September 15, 2022 at 2:53 PM
> > To: dev@trafficserver.apache.org <dev@trafficserver.apache.org>
> > Subject: Re: Different parent rules for 404 vs 5xx or unavailable
> > Nick,
> >
> > Currently this is not supported a change would have to be made to
> support it.
> >
> > John Rushford
> > jrushf...@apache.org
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Sep 15, 2022, at 10:14 AM, Nick Dunkin <nick.dun...@vecima.com.invalid>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> 
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I have a parent.config rule that uses a primary and secondary set of
> parents.
> >>
> >> Assuming a 404 from a parent in the primary list I would like to
> immediately try a parent in the secondary parent list, but for a 5xx, or
> connection error, I would like to first exhaust the primary list first,
> before then trying the secondary.
> >>
> >> I would imagine this is a fairly common use case for cluster failover
> behavior.  i.e. “Content is HTTP 404 form cluster A, so go to cluster B”
> >>
> >> I am not able to get this use case working with the various options for
> secondary_mode in parent.config (ATS ver 9.1.3).
> >>
> >> Please can anyone provide assistance?  Maybe this use case is supported
> with strategies.yaml?
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> Nick
> >>
> >> Nick Dunkin
> >> Director, Software Architecture
> >> Manager – Architecture and New Product Introduction
> >> o:  +1 678.258.4071
> >> e: nick.dun...@vecima.com
> >>
> >>
> >>
>

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