You can bump that up to greater than 5 but just keep in mind that once all 
parents are tried without success, an additional retry beyond the total number 
of parents would result in a 502 response back to the client instead of a 404

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> On Sep 15, 2022, at 1:58 PM, Robert O Butts <r...@apache.org> wrote:
> 
> Nick, if you're open to writing code, it wouldn't be overly difficult to
> modify the parent_select plugin to do what you want.
> 
> https://github.com/apache/trafficserver/tree/master/plugins/experimental/parent_select
> https://docs.trafficserver.apache.org/en/latest/admin-guide/plugins/parent_select.en.html
> https://docs.trafficserver.apache.org/en/latest/admin-guide/files/strategies.yaml.en.html
> 
> 
>> On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 1:55 PM Nick Dunkin <nick.dun...@vecima.com.invalid>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi John,
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> But if I have 5 primary parents in “cluster A”, and 3 secondary parents in
>> “cluster B”, then there is no configuration that will get me to “cluster B’
>> if the content is not available (404) on “cluster A”.  Which is my problem
>> unfortunately.
>> 
>> 
>> I’d like to push that value of
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> #define MAX_SIMPLE_RETRIES 5
>> 
>> in the code, and rebuild.  Any reason that won’t work until I can create a
>> more robust solution?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Nick
>> 
>> From: John Rushford <jjrushf...@gmail.com>
>> Date: Thursday, September 15, 2022 at 3:40 PM
>> To: dev@trafficserver.apache.org <dev@trafficserver.apache.org>
>> Subject: Re: Different parent rules for 404 vs 5xx or unavailable
>> Yes, max_simple retries should be no more than the total number of parents
>> -1.
>> 
>> Let’s say that you have 5 parents and all 5 send back a 404, that’s what
>> it should be if none of the parents has the object.  However, if you set
>> max_simple_retries greater than the total number of parents, the final
>> response would be a 502 because all parents were tried and no other parents
>> are available.  So if you have a total of 5 parents, set max_simple_retries
>> to 4,
>> Number of parents - 1
>> 
>> John
>> 
>>> On Sep 15, 2022, at 1:23 PM, Nick Dunkin <nick.dun...@vecima.com.INVALID>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi John,
>>> 
>>> Thanks for the clarification.
>>> 
>>> My short term mitigation is going to require me to increase the value of
>> max_simple_retries.  This property is currently fixed in the code to a
>> maximum values of 5.  Are you aware of any reason that I can’t safely
>> increase that maximum (in the code) to something like 8?  My 404 responses
>> are expected to be very quick, so I’m not too concerned about the
>> cumulative timing implications that would occur in this rare failover use
>> case.
>>> 
>>> Is there anything special about the upper bound value of 5 for this
>> max_simple_retries property?
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> 
>>> Nick
>>> 
>>> From: John Rushford <jjrushf...@gmail.com>
>>> Date: Thursday, September 15, 2022 at 2:53 PM
>>> To: dev@trafficserver.apache.org <dev@trafficserver.apache.org>
>>> Subject: Re: Different parent rules for 404 vs 5xx or unavailable
>>> Nick,
>>> 
>>> Currently this is not supported a change would have to be made to
>> support it.
>>> 
>>> John Rushford
>>> jrushf...@apache.org
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Sep 15, 2022, at 10:14 AM, Nick Dunkin <nick.dun...@vecima.com.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> I have a parent.config rule that uses a primary and secondary set of
>> parents.
>>>> 
>>>> Assuming a 404 from a parent in the primary list I would like to
>> immediately try a parent in the secondary parent list, but for a 5xx, or
>> connection error, I would like to first exhaust the primary list first,
>> before then trying the secondary.
>>>> 
>>>> I would imagine this is a fairly common use case for cluster failover
>> behavior.  i.e. “Content is HTTP 404 form cluster A, so go to cluster B”
>>>> 
>>>> I am not able to get this use case working with the various options for
>> secondary_mode in parent.config (ATS ver 9.1.3).
>>>> 
>>>> Please can anyone provide assistance?  Maybe this use case is supported
>> with strategies.yaml?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks
>>>> 
>>>> Nick
>>>> 
>>>> Nick Dunkin
>>>> Director, Software Architecture
>>>> Manager – Architecture and New Product Introduction
>>>> o:  +1 678.258.4071
>>>> e: nick.dun...@vecima.com
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>> 

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