Hi John,

Thanks.

But if I have 5 primary parents in “cluster A”, and 3 secondary parents in 
“cluster B”, then there is no configuration that will get me to “cluster B’ if 
the content is not available (404) on “cluster A”.  Which is my problem 
unfortunately.


I’d like to push that value of



#define MAX_SIMPLE_RETRIES 5

in the code, and rebuild.  Any reason that won’t work until I can create a more 
robust solution?

Thanks,

Nick

From: John Rushford <jjrushf...@gmail.com>
Date: Thursday, September 15, 2022 at 3:40 PM
To: dev@trafficserver.apache.org <dev@trafficserver.apache.org>
Subject: Re: Different parent rules for 404 vs 5xx or unavailable
Yes, max_simple retries should be no more than the total number of parents -1.

Let’s say that you have 5 parents and all 5 send back a 404, that’s what it 
should be if none of the parents has the object.  However, if you set 
max_simple_retries greater than the total number of parents, the final response 
would be a 502 because all parents were tried and no other parents are 
available.  So if you have a total of 5 parents, set max_simple_retries to 4,
Number of parents - 1

John

> On Sep 15, 2022, at 1:23 PM, Nick Dunkin <nick.dun...@vecima.com.INVALID> 
> wrote:
>
> Hi John,
>
> Thanks for the clarification.
>
> My short term mitigation is going to require me to increase the value of 
> max_simple_retries.  This property is currently fixed in the code to a 
> maximum values of 5.  Are you aware of any reason that I can’t safely 
> increase that maximum (in the code) to something like 8?  My 404 responses 
> are expected to be very quick, so I’m not too concerned about the cumulative 
> timing implications that would occur in this rare failover use case.
>
> Is there anything special about the upper bound value of 5 for this 
> max_simple_retries property?
>
> Thanks
>
> Nick
>
> From: John Rushford <jjrushf...@gmail.com>
> Date: Thursday, September 15, 2022 at 2:53 PM
> To: dev@trafficserver.apache.org <dev@trafficserver.apache.org>
> Subject: Re: Different parent rules for 404 vs 5xx or unavailable
> Nick,
>
> Currently this is not supported a change would have to be made to support it.
>
> John Rushford
> jrushf...@apache.org
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Sep 15, 2022, at 10:14 AM, Nick Dunkin <nick.dun...@vecima.com.invalid> 
>> wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have a parent.config rule that uses a primary and secondary set of parents.
>>
>> Assuming a 404 from a parent in the primary list I would like to immediately 
>> try a parent in the secondary parent list, but for a 5xx, or connection 
>> error, I would like to first exhaust the primary list first, before then 
>> trying the secondary.
>>
>> I would imagine this is a fairly common use case for cluster failover 
>> behavior.  i.e. “Content is HTTP 404 form cluster A, so go to cluster B”
>>
>> I am not able to get this use case working with the various options for 
>> secondary_mode in parent.config (ATS ver 9.1.3).
>>
>> Please can anyone provide assistance?  Maybe this use case is supported with 
>> strategies.yaml?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Nick
>>
>> Nick Dunkin
>> Director, Software Architecture
>> Manager – Architecture and New Product Introduction
>> o:  +1 678.258.4071
>> e: nick.dun...@vecima.com
>>
>>
>>

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