Matthias On 2024/07/28 08:17:48 Matthias Seidel wrote: > Hi Dick, > > Am 27.07.24 um 15:37 schrieb Dick Groskamp: > > OK, looked into it a bit. > > > > >From the en-us.sdf new templates have to be created, which are then > > >uploaded to Pootle. > > (This will add new strings and mark deprecated ones) > > After that, all existing translations have to be downloaded to disk > The translation does not need to be downloaded. Maybe, but I didn't have the karma :-) > > Then the downloaded translations can be updated with the new templates. > That should happen on the Pootle server. Well, as I understand it, that is the part that is broken :-( Seems that automated version could leave Pootle in a bad state https://stackoverflow.com/questions/33630137/what-is-update-against-templates-in-pootle-2-7 Also Pootle is still Python 2 > > One catch though: each language has to be individually been updated. > Of course. > > After that has been done, syncing the updated files with Pootle is the last > > step. > The last step would be to export the new translations to SDF files and > to merge them with our code. True > > > > Cumbersome :-( > > Until we find someone who is willing to work on the process we are not > able to release 4.2.0 (after all these years). > > The PMC should stop ignoring this fact. > > Regards, > > Matthias
I did manage to download nl and update the template with pot2po (all on my disk obviously) I just had a quick look at the difference between earlier SDF (2020) and the current one (2024) There seems to be a difference of sixty lines (60) Now the challenge is to find them :-) > > > > On 2024/07/26 15:26:49 Matthias Seidel wrote: > >> Hi Dick, > >> > >> Am 26.07.24 um 16:55 schrieb Dick Groskamp: > >>> On 2024/07/26 11:42:26 Matthias Seidel wrote: > >>>> Hi Dick, > >>>> > >>>> Am 26.07.24 um 09:22 schrieb Dick Groskamp: > >>>>> Matthias, > >>>>> > >>>>> I picked the SDF from trunk (nl lokalize.sdf) on 24-06-2024. It is > >>>>> dated 20200411. > >>>>> I think it is the most recent one. > >>>> Yes, the "most recent one" (for NL) is 4 years old... > >>>>> Problems I see is that they are also out of sync. > >>>>> nl Help-files are not in sync with SDF and also not with Pootle. > >>>> Everything is out of sync. > >>>>> For now I fixed the discrepancies by updating the Help-files and put > >>>>> them into the *.jars of the nl Help on my machine. That seems to work > >>>>> for now. > >>>>> I also plan to update Pootle with the corrections. That will be a > >>>>> manual task I'm afraid :-) > >>>> Translation in Pootle has always been a manual process? > >>> Yes, but I wonder how the strings from Pootle for nl ever got in > >>> Helpfiles :-) > >> The last export was done by an IBM employee in 2014. > >> > >> Then I spoke to Mechtilde in 2019 and she got the process running again, > >> but everything was manually. > >> > >> At one point the process broke (Pootle update?) and here we are. > >> > >>> I have no clue at all. After that then the Helpfiles are packaged somehow > >>> and delivered to the download package I assume > >>>>> Then, when translation process would work again, Pootle is in sync and > >>>>> updated, > >>>>> which should deliver correct sdf. > >>>> Whenever that will be... ;-) > >>> I haven't seen any new strings come in the last four/five years so I can > >>> slowly move forwards. > >> There were a lot of new strings in that time, but Pootle simply wasn't > >> updated. > >> > >>> One example: > >>> Image for STOP for BASIC macro (sc_basicstop.png) > >>> was sc_stop.png in nl Help file, showing nothing :-( > >> I *think* that was solved at one point, but the changes didn't make it > >> into Pootle. > >> > >> But you can always try the en-US build to see the actual development... > >> > >> BTW, SDF for en-US is not in our source, it gets exported weekly by our > >> buildbot: > >> > >> https://nightlies.apache.org/openoffice/install/linsnap-42x/?C=M;O=D > >> > >> Regards, > >> > >> Matthias > >> > >>>> Regards, > >>>> > >>>> Matthias > >>>> > >>>>> Greetings > >>>>> > >>>>> On 2024/07/25 14:58:18 Matthias Seidel wrote: > >>>>>> Hi Dick, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Am 23.07.24 um 15:12 schrieb Dick Groskamp: > >>>>>>> I'm currently working my way through the Helpfiles, trying to > >>>>>>> synchronize between Pootle and the available SDF and the existing > >>>>>>> Help-pages for Dutch. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I noticed several discrepancies between those instances. > >>>>>> The available SDF (which ones exactly?) are out of date. > >>>>>>> One of the most significant is the missing translation in the SDF for > >>>>>>> the functions UNICODE and UNICHAR, > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> that is, they are mentioned for the Help-files, but not for the UI > >>>>>>> (there they still are UNICODE and UNICHAR) > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Would it be possible to already add the translations for these > >>>>>>> functions, or do I have to go to all the Help-files first to get > >>>>>>> POOTLE fully up to date? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> It concerns just two small strings for the UI: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> formula source\core\resource\core_resource.src 0 string > >>>>>>> RID_STRLIST_FUNCTION_NAMES SC_OPCODE_UNICODE -----> nl UNI.CODE > >>>>>>> formula source\core\resource\core_resource.src 0 string > >>>>>>> RID_STRLIST_FUNCTION_NAMES SC_OPCODE_UNICHAR ------> nl > >>>>>>> UNI.TEKEN > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I've already added them to Pootle, but don't know how to get them in > >>>>>>> the upcoming builds. > >>>>>> *When* the translation process is working again, you will find them in > >>>>>> AOO42X. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Regards, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Matthias > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> If they are not there, only way to use them is to use English names, > >>>>>>> but, as you understand, that's not synchronized with Help > >>>>>>> > >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > >>>>> > >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > >>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > >>> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
