Am 29.12.20 um 09:54 schrieb Jörg Schmidt:

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From: Andrea Pescetti [mailto:pesce...@apache.org]
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 1:24 AM
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Subject: Re: Policy to deal with old web content - Archiving pages?

On 22/12/2020 Jörg Schmidt wrote:
my personal opinion is very simple:
for me it would be enough to archive a static copy of the
current state of the web pages, a history is not needed (in
my opinion).

This is what we get by using SVN/GIT (for static content,
like the main
OpenOffice.org site). And I believe this is enough to our
preservation
purposes.

For mwiki we have templates and that is probably fine; but
maybe we can
find a way (with appropriate plugins) to inject "[OUTDATED]" into the
HTML "title" tag of relevant pages, so that people who use search
engines will not be misled into outdated pages.

How do we want to define "outdated pages"?

in general, for me a page is outdated when there is a new one with updated content.

If only parts are outdated, then the complete page cannot be outdated. Then we have to mark only the respective parts as outdated.

Many pages are seemingly(!) outdated, but in reality they are needed (e.g. for 
the daily voluntary support on mailing lists or in forums).
Look e.g. at the extremely important pages with technical info for the creation 
of extensions:
https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/DevGuide/Extensions/Extensions

Maybe we should send pointers to these collections of pages to dev@ and judge case by case what to do.

These pages are outdated in parts, but still there is no more current 
information.


We don't need a super solution, we just need a reliable(!) archive for previous 
web and wiki pages, i.e. an archive of which we are sure that it includes all 
previous content.

Of course, an 'intelligent' search engine tagging would be a nice-to-have, but 
I wouldn't really want to spend time on that, especially since, as I just 
described with an example, it's difficult to clearly tell which pages are 
really outdated.

Much easier, and imho functionally sufficient, would be a footer on each 
archive page informing that this is an archive page plus a link to the start 
page (web and wiki) of the current pages.

The footer is only visible when you scroll comletely down. But many pages are longer and the searched information is maybe not far away from the top. Then you don't notice that the content is outdated.

I don't recomemnd to put it in the footer. Having it on top is more helpful.

Marcus


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