> From: Hagar Delest [mailto:hagar.del...@laposte.net] 

> I think that ODF was designed to be a fully open standard to 
> give the users back the property of their own data. 

No, that's not correct.

ODF was written this it was compatible with the capabilities of the program OOo.
This is a purely technical issue, and does not mean the ODF would therefore not
designed open.

> But [MS Office] OOXML is not what we could label a real open 
> format. There are parts that still refer to proprietary bits. 

fud, or show me exactly what parts you mean

e.g. the old binary formats has MS disclosed, see:
https://msdn.microsoft.com/de-de/library/office/cc313105(v=office.14).aspx
https://msdn.microsoft.com/de-de/library/office/gg615407(v=office.14).aspx


and please respect one:
I'm working for free and open source software for over 10 years, however 
therefore
I do not work primary against MS - for my thinking MS is a competitor, not an
enemy for me.


Jörg


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