Can this get to e.g. the Wiki? It is excellent advice for users deciding
whether to use AOO.
On 10/2/2016 9:17 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
+1
Rory's point is all that matters. The user wants to know how things
will work *now* in choosing between different products.
Hypotheticals and speculations about format standards are not useful.
(I've worked on both OOXML and ODF specifications and I know from
direct knowledge how baseless that debate is. I also run Office 365,
Apache OpenOffice, and LibreOffice. I will not offer a preference so
don't ask.)
Neither Microsoft Office nor Apache OpenOffice provide a works-alike
of the other and its preferred/native format. Each uses the format
of the other by (imperfect) conversions. That will be apparent when
Bill or anyone has them side-by-side and tests interchange with the
documents that are important to him.
My recommendation to Bill Pate is that he go to the trouble of
installing Apache OpenOffice and checking on what matters for his
particular situation and the documents that are important to him. He
should not save back on top of his Office 365 documents, but save as
new versions from OpenOffice until he is satisfied that any
deviations are tolerable.
He also needs to know that if support for OOXML (.docx, .xlsx, .pptx)
formats is important for reasons of interchange, that Apache
OpenOffice does not save back in those formats and it won't in the
foreseeable future. Earlier comments suggest alternatives (e.g.,
going back to .doc, .xls, and .ppt formats or switching to .odt,
.ods, and .odp) and Bill should satisfy himself whether any of that
works in his situation. It may also matter whether he requires
Mobile/Tablet support and an alternative to desktop Outlook (if used
in his Office 365 work), frequent security and feature updates, etc.
It doesn't matter what others think sucks. It matters what will
actually work for Bill. The safest step for Bill is to try both
while he can have them side-by-side and then satisfy himself.
- Dennis
-----Original Message----- From: Rory O'Farrell
[mailto:ofarr...@iol.ie] Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2016 07:00 To:
dev@openoffice.apache.org Cc: Xen <l...@xenhideout.nl> Subject: Re:
<DKIM> In regards to Open Office
Top posting:
This thread is going off at half cock!
Hagar's implied point was that any change in editor is almost
certain to cause some alteration (greater or lesser) in formatting.
Why this should be and whether the precise file format is
responsible is hardly relevant.
Rory
On Sun, 02 Oct 2016 15:43:56 +0200 Xen <l...@xenhideout.nl> wrote:
Jörg Schmidt schreef op 02-10-2016 14:05:
And let me say it absolutely clear: I've heard how MS has
denigrated many years Linux, but I have also noticed that MS
reality of ODF recognized. Only with better software, we can
beat MS, not with stupid sayings.
It is easier than ever today, I must say. Microsoft creates worse
and worse software by the day, for the most part. But for the
most part Linux is not improving either...
I believe in the competition for the better software, not I
believe
in
the power of ideological talk.
Indeed just saying some software is better won't make it better.
Thank you for these sentiments. In the Linux world many things
are
make
believe. If you can get enough people to agree that a pear is
orange, other people will start believing it too.
Some Linux advents and groups and products keep repeating "their
great community" and "their awesome software" verbatim every day.
But saying it is great doesn't necesarily make it great and I see
the same on television if I have stayed away from it for a while
(it will be
called
nationalism).
Only honesty can really improve things. Anyway, sorry for this.
Regards.
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