On 1 April 2015 at 09:33, Andrea Pescetti <pesce...@apache.org> wrote:
> On 30/03/2015 jan i wrote: > >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/2015+Mar >> You might notice that I prefer to use a much more direct tone, than Andrea >> did. >> > > Looks very good, tone is OK too, what was appropriate three months ago is > not necessarily appropriate now. > > The report is in Wiki, so all with access can change it, please change >> typos etc directly, but let us discuss changes in the tone/meaning. >> > > Comments below. > > The mailing lists for users and the development list are fairly active, >> the remainder of the lists are experiencing low activity (see later on >> development activity). >> > > If you go through the lists (in the new automatic section with numbers), > both l10n and QA have more messages than the previous quarter, so this "low > activity" for those list is not something new or bad: it is simply obvious > that the l10n list will have less traffic than this list. So I would simply > state "...while specialized lists see a lower, but steady, activity". > changed. > > New volunteers for development showup regularly, but without mentors >> we have not been able to keep them motivated and on the project. >> >> Nobody has shown interest in becoming the new release manager, which >> have been missing for approx. last 5 months, >> >> The 2 MAC (buildbot) delivered Q3 2014 from Infra are not operational, >> due to lack of a volunteer to install the AOO development platform. >> >> Proof of concept for Digital Signing was made mid. 2014, no further >> work have been done. >> > > All of these are unfortunately true and to be addressed... Report is OK as > it is, description is accurate. Maybe on the first item we could actually > say that we have been able to commit simple fixes (again, this is quite > unchanged with respect to the past). > added with a bit different wording. > > OpenOffice was present at FOSDEM, both with talks as well as a >> table (a big thanks to Stehmanns and the speakers). >> A BoF is being arranged for CSDN OSTC by Imacat. >> > > Big thanks are not for the report. But still very appropriate for the > list... so big thanks to who worked for events! I would add some context if > you have it, like "FOSDEM (January 2015 in Brussels, Belgium)" and "CSDN > OSTC (March? 2015, Beijing?)". Just to put the events in context. > Actually before I became member I was mentioned in 5-6 board reports like that, which is a good way to put attention to people. I have changed the text. > > ## Issues: >> The current CMS discussion, which leaves projects to find their >> own tools, will cause a significant problem for AOO. The AOO Web pages >> depend on the features of CMS. If Infra is to stop the service, >> AOO will need to either only maintain only a few pages or run >> CMS on a project VM. The Board should remember to look at the >> total cost of this change, not only the Infra costs. >> > > It is a discussion, so rather than "will cause" I would phrase it in terms > of POTENTIAL problems. Infra has clarified that this is not to be taken as > a decision they made, but as an occasion for discussion. > > Something like "The current CMS discussion based on a proposal to > decommission the tool and ask projects to find other solutions would cause > a significant problem for OpenOffice [side note: we have a name we should > be proud of, and I prefer we use our name and not "AOO" in the reports; > this is a small detail, I mention it here since it occurs to me here and I > can live with "AOO" in the report too, where it is clear what we mean]. The > OpenOffice website depends on several features of the CMS that cannot be > easily ported to other tools. The CMS has been an important tool for > community building as it lowers the barriers for contributions, especially > for translation volunteers. If Infra..." > Changed part of it. I use AOO on purpose in reports, because is the project, I use Apache openOffice when referring to something that includes our ecosystem, and openOffice when referring to the office suite and ecosystem in general. > > The current activity level (practically no development) combined >> with minimal interest in discussing solutions, is a potential >> problem, that might cause a community breakdown. The community >> only has a few developers left, which makes a bootstrap very >> complex. Please consider this as important information, more >> will follow in the next board report. >> > > This is OK, but the first time I read this I thought it still referred to > the CMS. So maybe it's better to introduce it with a sentence like "A major > issue OpenOffice is facing is a slowdown in development". > you are right, I added a new start. > > ## Releases: >> - Last release was 4.1.1 on Thu Aug 21 2014 >> Version 4.1.2 has been in planning for approx. 5 months and >> will be the first digitally signed release. It is still not >> decided which bugfixes should be included. Due to lack of >> developers (to make the bugfixes) and a release manager no work is active. >> > > I think we could resume some work here. At least, bring to the trunk the > small list of fixes we have already available (and which I listed here on > this list some weeks ago). 4.1.2 has to happen and I would like to see > reflected in the Board report that the project still feels committed in > getting it out as soon as possible with the current resources. So "no work > is active" should become something like "work is progressing at a slow > pace, but the project remains committed to delivering 4.1.2 as soon as > possible". This is based on the expectation that the latter will be true > and more visible when the Board report is committed: I will also try to go > back to the list of bugs later this week. > I agree that we are committed to bringing out the release (changed text to reflect that) and that we could and should resume some work here, but that is future and the report is about the last 3 months, so I prefer to keep the "no work is active". I would be more than happy to report next time, that we have actually managed to bring out a release. Have a look at the changes, and let me know if they are ok to you. rgds jan I. ps. thanks for correcting the typo, which was a copy/paste from a change marcus suggested. > Regards, > Andrea. > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > >
