I'll ask one more time. What action is expected here on dev@ to impact how the PMC uses private@ ?
I can't speak to what the volumes of private@ messages are without knowing what those discussions were. In the cases I have seen since I joined the PMC in February, discussions that should be here have ended up here. It is not unusual for something that starts legitimately on private@ to advance to something that should be brought to dev@. It perhaps could have started on dev@ but didn't. Once it starts on private@ it sometimes takes a little thrashing around before we catch ourselves and the topic is reframed in a form for dev@ (i.e., without breaking confidences). There is no way for dev@ subscribers who are not on the PMC to know there are discussions that should be on dev@ yet remain on private@. The PMC has to police itself. Any one of us can declare here that inappropriate use of private@ is happening, but anyone not on private@ has no means to assess the facts and determine how serious it might be in any particular case. - Dennis -----Original Message----- From: jan i [mailto:j...@apache.org] Sent: Saturday, March 7, 2015 10:03 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org; dennis.hamil...@acm.org Subject: Re: community communication versus private PMC communication, WAS: PMC FAQ update On Saturday, March 7, 2015, Dennis E. Hamilton <dennis.hamil...@acm.org> wrote: > I am not certain exactly what issue is proposed to be discussed here. > > If you mean the over-use of private@ by the PMC, is there an issue to > discuss? Those of us on the PMC need to be attentive to minimizing private@ > discussions and bring to dev@ every discussion that is not one of the > special cases requiring discreet usage of private@. > > Talking about it here doesn't seem necessary. Who would disagree? Those > of us with PMC accountability need to make it so. It is expected of all > PMCs. Well look at the numbers, I did not publish the numbers for 2014, but you will see a high number of mails on private@ so it seems that not all agree to keep private@ low. [ ... ] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org