On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 2:12 PM, Marcus <marcus.m...@wtnet.de> wrote:
> I need to posting on the top because I don't know which one I should use as
> every 3 minutes new postings are coming. Sorry.
>
>
>
> As it is still not clear if we discuss about that the content is too
> aggressive or just the disclaimer is too unclear, I've moved the disclaimer
> to the top, made it red and used Jan's wording as template to make it
> hopefully clear what it is.
>
> At least for the moment, the intension about the page should be clear now.
>
> But the following is still not clear. Unless it is not clarified IMHO we are
> discussing in circles:
>
> - Who is it that do not like the content?
> - How many people do we speak about since the webpage is online?
> - Which text parts are exacly wrong or just badly described?
>

In other words, there is no consensus yet.  Even the disclaimer itself
represents the opinion of individuals and not the view of the PMC.

-Rob


> Thanks
>
> Marcus
>
>
>
> Am 02/19/2015 04:10 PM, schrieb jan i:
>
>> Hi.
>>
>> We have a page http://www.openoffice.org/why/why_compliance.html which
>> seems to be like a red carpet to a number of people.
>>
>> There are of course people who do not like the page because they would
>> like
>> another license to have the headline, they are not my concern (as long as
>> the page we produce are correct).
>>
>> There are also people (myself included) that feel this page can too easily
>> be misread as expressing the view of ASF and AOO.
>>
>> The page has lately been changed and among other a line at the bottom has
>> been added:
>> "
>>
>> *The Apache Software Foundation does not take a position on, recommend or
>> advise the use or non-use of any particular software license or family of
>> licenses."*
>> Surely that is enough in legal terms indicate that the page is the opinion
>> of somebody not ASF. But for many they see this as the normal disclaimer
>> and being on the bottom many do not even read it.
>>
>> We as a project cannot and should not speak on behalf of ASF, nor should
>> we
>> have web pages that causes longer negative discussions (I cannot refer to
>> the mails on private@ and elsewhere, but only say that lately we talk
>> about
>> a lot of mails).
>>
>> I, as PMC member, do not see the need for a page that causes this kind of
>> discussions, and would prefer to see it removed....however a statement on
>> top of the page saying something like:
>> "This page do not reflect the opinion of ASF or the AOO PMC"
>> would at least stop the negative discussions.
>>
>>
>> Thoughts?
>
>
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