Am 02/19/2015 08:38 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:
On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 2:12 PM, Marcus<marcus.m...@wtnet.de>  wrote:
I need to posting on the top because I don't know which one I should use as
every 3 minutes new postings are coming. Sorry.



As it is still not clear if we discuss about that the content is too
aggressive or just the disclaimer is too unclear, I've moved the disclaimer
to the top, made it red and used Jan's wording as template to make it
hopefully clear what it is.

At least for the moment, the intension about the page should be clear now.

But the following is still not clear. Unless it is not clarified IMHO we are
discussing in circles:

- Who is it that do not like the content?
- How many people do we speak about since the webpage is online?
- Which text parts are exacly wrong or just badly described?


In other words, there is no consensus yet.  Even the disclaimer itself
represents the opinion of individuals and not the view of the PMC.

you have the right to change it. Patches are welcome. ;-)

Marcus



Am 02/19/2015 04:10 PM, schrieb jan i:

Hi.

We have a page http://www.openoffice.org/why/why_compliance.html which
seems to be like a red carpet to a number of people.

There are of course people who do not like the page because they would
like
another license to have the headline, they are not my concern (as long as
the page we produce are correct).

There are also people (myself included) that feel this page can too easily
be misread as expressing the view of ASF and AOO.

The page has lately been changed and among other a line at the bottom has
been added:
"

*The Apache Software Foundation does not take a position on, recommend or
advise the use or non-use of any particular software license or family of
licenses."*
Surely that is enough in legal terms indicate that the page is the opinion
of somebody not ASF. But for many they see this as the normal disclaimer
and being on the bottom many do not even read it.

We as a project cannot and should not speak on behalf of ASF, nor should
we
have web pages that causes longer negative discussions (I cannot refer to
the mails on private@ and elsewhere, but only say that lately we talk
about
a lot of mails).

I, as PMC member, do not see the need for a page that causes this kind of
discussions, and would prefer to see it removed....however a statement on
top of the page saying something like:
"This page do not reflect the opinion of ASF or the AOO PMC"
would at least stop the negative discussions.


Thoughts?

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