On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 12:11 PM, jan i <j...@apache.org> wrote:
> On 19 February 2015 at 17:54, Rob Weir <r...@robweir.com> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 11:38 AM, Simon Phipps <si...@webmink.com> wrote:
>> > On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 4:27 PM, Alexandro Colorado <j...@oooes.org>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Why not just take it down, and re-publish it when there is a more
>> >> agreeable content on it.
>> >
>> >
>> > That sounds smart to me, +1.
>> >
>> > I note that on legal-discuss Jim [called the page][1]
>> "misrepresentation" -
>> > maybe he has comments on what the project should do here?
>>
> Let me put it like this without disclosing content of mails from private
> lists,  Jim is also AOO PMC member and has given good advice.
>
> My recommendation follow that advice.
>

I'm a PMC member as well.  I trust my -1 has been noted.

>
>> >
>>
>> Hi Simon,
>>
>> Rather than put it off to someone else, maybe you as an esteemed
>> project contributor can help with some suitable replacement content.
>> Why do you think the ASF mandates the ALv2 and forbids GPL?   Surely
>> it is not merely some bit of arcane religious dogma that we practice
>> out of blind devotion, without knowing any reason why.   So in your
>> personal opinion, as a project member, why do we prefer ALv2?   And
>> how can we best express these benefits to potential users?
>>
>> Changing the content, does not change the fact about whose opinion it is !
>
> I have already made one proposal as to how a disclaimer placed at top could
> look like.
> "This page do not reflect the opinion of ASF or the AOO PMC"
>


I assumed that was a placeholder.  Abbreviations like "ASF" and "AOO"
and "PMC"  will not be understood by a random visitor. And beyond the
abbreviations very few visitors will understand what the ASF is, what
the PMC is, how they relate, etc.   This is a kind of disclaimer that
causes more confusion.

I know that you've avoided actually reading or understanding the page
but I'd highly recommend trying to understand that page in context.
Something like 80% of the visitors to that page reach it from search
(Google or Bing).  Aside from a few Apache and FSF insiders writhing
in anguish over this page, almost everyone who sees it comes to it
without any deep knowledge of how the ASF works.  So I think any
disclaimer would need to be written in a form that is clear to them.


-Rob


> rgds
> jan I.
>
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> -Rob
>>
>> > S.
>> >
>> > [1]:
>> >
>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-legal-discuss/201502.mbox/%3CB5FAC1D8-332E-48FD-A495-5E5C9255A859%40jaguNET.com%3E
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