On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 3:33 PM, Kay Schenk <kay.sch...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 3:49 PM, Marcus (OOo) <marcus.m...@wtnet.de> wrote: > >> Am 10/23/2013 12:04 AM, schrieb Kay Schenk: >> >> On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 1:07 PM, Drew >> Jensen<drewjensen.inbox@gmail.**com<drewjensen.in...@gmail.com> >>> >wrote: >>> >>> Howdy Rob, >>>> >>>> Ah trademarks - yes, I agree the Apache OpenOffice should have a TM, a >>>> la: >>>> "IBM® Lotus® Symphony™ is a suite of open source office applications." >>>> >>>> >>> FYI on the existing consultant entries >>> http://www.openoffice.org/**bizdev/consultants.html<http://www.openoffice.org/bizdev/consultants.html> >>> >>> none have the TM after Apache OpenOffice, and some don't even have >>> "Apache" >>> in front of OpenOffice. So...not sure if we should manually correct these >>> already approved submissions. >>> >>> Of course, it's our site so we can do what we want. My point is we should >>> be consistent in how OpenOffice is presented in them -- with "Apache" or >>> not; with TM after or not. >>> >> >> I also think that webpage should show consistent information. As the >> existing items don't have too much indication about trademarks & co., IMHO >> we can also abstain with regards to Rob's suggestion. >> >> Furthermore: >> The top headline says it all: ;-) >> >> Apache OpenOffice Consultants >> >> So, I think the point #4 on "http://www.openoffice.org/** >> bizdev/consultant-submission.**html<http://www.openoffice.org/bizdev/consultant-submission.html>" >> can be eased a bit as it is clear enough that the items are with and for >> our project resp. product. >> >> Marcus > > > So...this thread does not meet "lazy consensus" but are we ready to > implement this addition, without further changes, anyway? I'll be happy to > take care of this either later today or tomorrow if we are. >
I've put in a request to update the IBM web page to address some of the comments. I don't have direct access to it, but it should be updated sometime next week. Unless anyone has additional concerns beyond the trademark attribution it should be OK to go forward. -Rob > >> >> >> >> A couple of quick questions if I may. >>>> Will the support only be available to those with the IBM connectors? IIRC >>>> that was the plan in the past. >>>> >>>> Also, does IBM have any plans to list AOO support on the United States >>>> GSA >>>> registry? This was available in the past but not available for the last >>>> few >>>> years. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> //drew >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 7:44 PM, Jörg Schmidt<joe...@j-m-schmidt.de> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> Sorry, but I think the website does not comply with the >>>>>>> >>>>>> necessary formalities. >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Always has been emphasized, these are marked on the >>>>>>> >>>>>> relevant websites trademark of Apache, for example: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "IBM Support for Apache OpenOffice<TM>" >>>>>>> >>>>>>> and not only: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "IBM Support for Apache OpenOffice" >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> I think that would be more confusing. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sorry, but appearance is imho not so much the issue here, but rather >>>>> trademark rights of Apache. >>>>> Yes, that is formal, but how else should this be handled? >>>>> >>>>> It would suggest the entire >>>>>> name was a trademark since it is a continuous name with capital >>>>>> letters. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> It does not have to be in the headline. Put identification in continuous >>>>> text, for example in: >>>>> >>>>> "IBM® Support for Apache OpenOffice™ offers expert technical support for >>>>> Apache OpenOffice™, ..." >>>>> >>>>> where IBM is already marked with ®. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Greetings, >>>>> Jörg >>>>> >>>> >> ------------------------------**------------------------------**--------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: >> dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.**apache.org<dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org> >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org >> >> > > > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > MzK > > “Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, > Nothing is going to get better. It's not.” > -- Dr. Seuss, The Lorax --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
