> -----Original Message----- > From: Dave Fisher [mailto:dave2w...@comcast.net] > Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2013 8:01 PM > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: [DISCUSS] Contributing Existing Works [Was: Re: Can > somebody please commit the update of the de-websites] > > > On Jun 21, 2013, at 7:21 AM, Peter Junge wrote: > > > On 6/21/2013 9:59 PM, Jörg Schmidt wrote: > >> Hello, > >> > >>> From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] > >> > >>>> What is the problem? > >>>> > >>> > >>> The CD is not from the Apache OpenOffice project. It was > not reviewed > >>> and approved for release by the project. It is a 3rd > party product. > >>> The website says it is from "Verein Freies Office > Deutschland e.V..": > >> > >> No, this is absolutely *not* true! > >> > >> The "Verein Freies Office Deutschland e.V.." is NOT the > creator of the PrOOo-box, but that's us (Detlef, Jan and I) > three members of the AOO-Community in Germany. > >> > >> You can see my entry here: > >> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Directory > +of+Volunteers > >> > >> and I can gladly Jan and Detlef ask to register there. > >> > >> The "Verein Freies Office Deutschland e.V. is the *only* > one who pays us the hosting of the Box (850 euros per year). > >> > >> *We would be pleased if the Apache paid. Apache wants to do that?* > > > > As far as I understand the Apache way: Apache products must > be hosted by Apache infrastructure(*), but as the PrOOo-Box > certainly contains also non-Apache products it cannot be > hosted at Apache. Seems a Catch-22 to me. Does someone has > any good idea how to fix this? It would certainly be a good > thing to continue the PrOOo-Box within the AOO community. > > > > (*) Apache strictly requires to avoid community > fragmentation like it had happened with OOo. > > I would like to continue this discussion with a different > approach. Let's discuss the process for PrOOo-Box to become > part of the Apache OpenOffice product. There are several > steps and it is worth exploring. Of course I must preface > this with "I am not a lawyer." The following would need to be > considered: > > (1) License / IP Clearance. A review of the non-Apache > products included in PrOOo-Box is necessary. If these are > compatible then it is possible to include them in a > "release". If not then they are other considerations which > would depend on packaging and all kinds of legal and > technical challenges. > > (2) Copyright. If the three of you own the unique aspects > then you may need to re-license these to AL2.0 - the Apache LIcense. > > (3) Individual Contributor License Agreements (ICLA) help. If > there is a large amount of unique IP then a Software Grant > may be requested. > > (4) The AOO PMC would have to accept the donation through a > VOTE or LAZY CONSENSUS. > > We can all learn something from the PrOOo-box team.
We may like to discuss the necessary steps, but please understand that we (the PrOOo-Box-team) also need to advise us only if we want to do. When Rob, for example, of "creative control" speaks, which is also a point to be noted, too. Even if we say yes, it will take long until we can start, I think not before 2014. Please see the situation: PrOOo the box it was in OOo, many years. e.g. here is a picture of PrOOo-Box from 2004: http://www.openoffice.org/de/veranstaltungen/systems2004/uebergabe.jpg (Yes, the PrOOo box was once a real box with brochure and CD/DVD. We hope that this will be it in the future, but currently there is only an ISO and some of us have some private DVD-R burned.) But then most people involved have switched to LO and the PrOOo box would not update for 2 years. Since 1.5 years we have been back (with a new team) to work on it, but there is a lot of work, as many things are to be updated. Similarly, there was again a lot of work to revitalize the technical infrastructure and this process is not yet completed. Greetings, Jörg --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
