+1 +1 +1 ...

When a project that is committed to working in public raises the draw bridge, 
circles the wagons, or goes dark in any way, the detractors win by seeing their 
insecurities and animosities confirmed in us.  

Be of strong heart and goodwill.  Stay the course.

 - Dennis

PS: I am vicariously proud of the work that Rob Weir does to provide an account 
for data sources and what the analytics are for the resulting tables and 
visuals.  That is great, transparent work.  When others provide concrete 
improvements, rather than using the unavoidable uncertainties to impeach the 
work, it raises the bar for all of us.  There are those whose adversarial view 
of the world only admits the blemishes and not the accomplishments.  I am 
pleased that such impoverished views be ignored in favor of furthering the 
Apache Way.

-----Original Message-----
From: Andrea Pescetti [mailto:pesce...@apache.org] 
Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 06:23
To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
Subject: Re: Statistic over committer activity.

[ ... ]

We chose to respect the Apache Way and hold all our discussions in 
public: all project planning is done on this public list. This is a big 
challenge. We have no other channels, so any discussions on how to 
attract new developers and any supporting figures that can help that 
kind of discussions belong necessarily here.

On the other side, people who've been around for a while know (and now 
Jan knows too!) that numbers that may be functional to support certain 
claims will be selectively taken and republished without any kind of 
disclaimers or analysis. This happens and will continue to happen, and 
if people cannot find figures on this list they will make them up, or 
hand-wave, or whatever.

[ ... ]

So, more than the numbers themselves (all numbers have problems, 
especially when analyzing commits and doing that over different periods 
of time), let's keep the good discussion on how we can make contributing 
easier for newcomers and occasional contributors. We will always need it.

Regards,
   Andrea.

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