Dave ,
Hi Phil,

It is not completely impossible that an extension could be added to AOO to read 
and write Publisher files. It just takes one or two Java programmers with the 
time and interest. See [1] for where the effort could start.

On Nov 22, 2012, at 8:36 AM, Fernand Vanrie wrote:

Juergen,

Maybe 1 machine has a MS office package for the "unsalvable problems" the 99 
others have Windows with LO ,OO, Thunderbird, Inkscape, Gimp, Image Magick and a free 
Adobe PDF reader

We can read and write MS text and spreadsheets, in the "editing world" PDF is 
the exchange format by exelence. (For that reason PDF must been a graphic format in LO  
and LO :-)
It would great if PDF could be imported into any of Presenter, Writer and Draw. 
Perhaps this can be a goal of the new Drawing work.

BTW - Postscript lives inside the PDF file format all of the drawing primitives 
are very close to postscript and operate the same way

SVG is also a descendent of Postscript. (as Postscript is a descendent of Xerox 
Interpress plus III)
in the long terme SVG can/sould be a full alternative for PDF ? now we open PDF files in Inkscape and save them as SVG, simpel PDF's survive this action and can been placed as SVG in all OO docs

But I'm biased and have built a publishing chain based on applications 
producing postscript pages with special comments, shell scripts to collate into 
postscript documents, conversion to PDF w/ghostscript or editable PPTX using 
Java and Apache POI.

We've also done PDF into editable shapes and text in PPTX using Apache PDFBox 
and Apache POI. Should we make the effort to go to ODF we will likely be using 
ODFToolkit.

To close the loop if you want to process Publisher files and help with 
understanding the files format Apache POI is a good place. [1]

Regards,
Dave

[1] http://poi.apache.org/hpbf/index.html

Maybe you comes to Fosdem in Brussels, we would be happy to invite you to show 
on the work floor how is works here

Greetz

Fernand
Hi Fernand,

I would love to read a more detailed public success story about your experience 
and work with writer. It sounds very interesting especially when you stay in 
one world, means no heavy exchange of MS formats.

Thanks for sharing

Juergen

Am Donnerstag, 15. November 2012 um 09:34 schrieb Fernand Vanrie:
Alexandro ,

On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 11:24 PM, Phillip Zadro
<ricaza1...@hotmail.com.au>wrote:


hi Is there any likelihood that OpenOffice will one day include a desktop
publisher? There is only one thing that is stopping me from migrating
completely from Microsoft Office to either OpenOffice or LibreOffice and it
is their lack of a Desktop Publisher comparable with MS Publisher. I have
used Publisher for over 15 years and love its practicality, particularly
with paginating of booklets. Even a separate program like Serif PagePlus
cannot save in MS format either, so I am obliged to stay with MS Office.
Pity.. Thanks Phil

Draw is a perfect Desktop publisher, is so perfect is compatible with other
We uses exclusifly Writer (+ lot of basic macro's) to make over 8.000
full color magazine pages par year. This pages are all i2 languages
versions, with cutouts (we uses Edit Contour) transparancies etc...)
Our Editors places lowres images "embedded" in there documents, a final
macro checks the resolution quality and changes the lowres with the
highres (stored on a server) just before exporting to PDF
Sinds there is SVG, we no longer use EPS and "Adobe" to make our PDF's.
PostScript is dead anyhow (lack of transparency) the LO/OO- PDF export
is with use off a Lanczos filter nearly perfect.
We only needs a "payed" Color Server to transfer our RGB PDF's to CMYK
Our magazines are printed by different print houses (15.000-3.000 exp.)
on high quality paper, there are no complaints from our printers and the
readers can not sea the difference between our Magazines an thus maded
by payed DTP applications
Just a pitty thats SVG is still exported as bitmap (sould been repaired
in 3.7) and PDF is still not a accepted as a graphic format like we can
use (Tiff, jpg, etc...)

Greetz

Fernand
desktop publishers like Scribus and is based on a frame based paradigm.
There are some features that would be desirable but is pretty easy to
complete basic and medium tasks like Flyers, Booklets and all it has layers
which keeps design separated from content. And have multiple layouts and
use of vectorial forms.

With improved use of SVG Draw is also gaining strenght in the area of
design compatibility and would be improving as more features are considered.




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