On Thu, 22 Nov 2012 09:08:43 -0800
Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net> wrote:

> Hi Phil,
> 
> It is not completely impossible that an extension could be added to AOO to 
> read and write Publisher files. It just takes one or two Java programmers 
> with the time and interest. See [1] for where the effort could start.
> 
> On Nov 22, 2012, at 8:36 AM, Fernand Vanrie wrote:
> 
> > Juergen,
> > 
> > Maybe 1 machine has a MS office package for the "unsalvable problems" the 
> > 99 others have Windows with LO ,OO, Thunderbird, Inkscape, Gimp, Image 
> > Magick and a free Adobe PDF reader
> > 
> > We can read and write MS text and spreadsheets, in the "editing world" PDF 
> > is the exchange format by exelence. (For that reason PDF must been a 
> > graphic format in LO  and LO :-)
> 
> It would great if PDF could be imported into any of Presenter, Writer and 
> Draw. Perhaps this can be a goal of the new Drawing work.
> 
> BTW - Postscript lives inside the PDF file format all of the drawing 
> primitives are very close to postscript and operate the same way.
> 
> SVG is also a descendent of Postscript. (as Postscript is a descendent of 
> Xerox Interpress plus III)
> 
> But I'm biased and have built a publishing chain based on applications 
> producing postscript pages with special comments, shell scripts to collate 
> into postscript documents, conversion to PDF w/ghostscript or editable PPTX 
> using Java and Apache POI. 
> 
> We've also done PDF into editable shapes and text in PPTX using Apache PDFBox 
> and Apache POI. Should we make the effort to go to ODF we will likely be 
> using ODFToolkit.
> 
> To close the loop if you want to process Publisher files and help with 
> understanding the files format Apache POI is a good place. [1]
> 
> Regards,
> Dave
> 
> [1] http://poi.apache.org/hpbf/index.html
> 
> > 
> > Maybe you comes to Fosdem in Brussels, we would be happy to invite you to 
> > show on the work floor how is works here
> > 
> > Greetz
> > 
> > Fernand
> >> Hi Fernand,
> >> 
> >> I would love to read a more detailed public success story about your 
> >> experience and work with writer. It sounds very interesting especially 
> >> when you stay in one world, means no heavy exchange of MS formats.
> >> 
> >> Thanks for sharing
> >> 
> >> Juergen
> >> 
> >> Am Donnerstag, 15. November 2012 um 09:34 schrieb Fernand Vanrie:
> >>> Alexandro ,
> >>> 
> >>>> On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 11:24 PM, Phillip Zadro
> >>>> <ricaza1...@hotmail.com.au>wrote:
> >>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> hi Is there any likelihood that OpenOffice will one day include a 
> >>>>> desktop
> >>>>> publisher? There is only one thing that is stopping me from migrating
> >>>>> completely from Microsoft Office to either OpenOffice or LibreOffice 
> >>>>> and it
> >>>>> is their lack of a Desktop Publisher comparable with MS Publisher. I 
> >>>>> have
> >>>>> used Publisher for over 15 years and love its practicality, particularly
> >>>>> with paginating of booklets. Even a separate program like Serif PagePlus
> >>>>> cannot save in MS format either, so I am obliged to stay with MS Office.
> >>>>> Pity.. Thanks Phil
> >>>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> Draw is a perfect Desktop publisher, is so perfect is compatible with 
> >>>> other
> >>> We uses exclusifly Writer (+ lot of basic macro's) to make over 8.000
> >>> full color magazine pages par year. This pages are all i2 languages
> >>> versions, with cutouts (we uses Edit Contour) transparancies etc...)
> >>> Our Editors places lowres images "embedded" in there documents, a final
> >>> macro checks the resolution quality and changes the lowres with the
> >>> highres (stored on a server) just before exporting to PDF
> >>> Sinds there is SVG, we no longer use EPS and "Adobe" to make our PDF's.
> >>> PostScript is dead anyhow (lack of transparency) the LO/OO- PDF export
> >>> is with use off a Lanczos filter nearly perfect.
> >>> We only needs a "payed" Color Server to transfer our RGB PDF's to CMYK
> >>> Our magazines are printed by different print houses (15.000-3.000 exp.)
> >>> on high quality paper, there are no complaints from our printers and the
> >>> readers can not sea the difference between our Magazines an thus maded
> >>> by payed DTP applications
> >>> Just a pitty thats SVG is still exported as bitmap (sould been repaired
> >>> in 3.7) and PDF is still not a accepted as a graphic format like we can
> >>> use (Tiff, jpg, etc...)
> >>> 
> >>> Greetz
> >>> 
> >>> Fernand
> >>>> desktop publishers like Scribus and is based on a frame based paradigm.
> >>>> There are some features that would be desirable but is pretty easy to
> >>>> complete basic and medium tasks like Flyers, Booklets and all it has 
> >>>> layers
> >>>> which keeps design separated from content. And have multiple layouts and
> >>>> use of vectorial forms.
> >>>> 
> >>>> With improved use of SVG Draw is also gaining strenght in the area of
> >>>> design compatibility and would be improving as more features are 
> >>>> considered.

One of my suggestions on the Google whatever it was called page was that Frame 
support should be improved so that DTP capabilities improved.


-- 
Rory O'Farrell <ofarr...@iol.ie>

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