I'm talking about working as a project within the ASF. Some of the discussion at the first community event seemed to revolve around misunderstanding aspects of hownthe ASF works. ApacheCons are an ideal place to resolve issues. But as a new ASF project AOO might not have had the benefit.
Sent from my tablet On Nov 10, 2012 8:03 PM, "Donald Harbison" <dpharbi...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Saturday, November 10, 2012, Ross Gardler wrote: > > > I still think you are missing my point. I would like to know if AOO > people > > found the event useful in learning about the ASF, hence my original > > observation "You missed how useful was it in learning about the ASF' > > > Let's ask Andrea et al to chime in. From what I read in various notes our > AOO crew did comment positively wrt to meeting folks from other projects. > Makin > > > > > I'm really not sure what you think I'm saying but your responses are > really > > confusing me so clearly we are talking past one another. Perhaps the > > problem is that since I'm using a mobile my first comment missed a > question > > mark, its phrased as a question and is intended as one. > > > > Sent from mobile, forgive terseness and errors > > On Nov 10, 2012 5:55 PM, "Rob Weir" <rabas...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Nov 10, 2012, at 12:16 PM, Ross Gardler <rgard...@opendirective.com > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Sure, my point is that what people did do is not necessarily > > > representative > > > > of the value of the event and thus is not necessarily a good > indicator > > of > > > > best use of funds. Since this was the stated intent of your mail I > > > thought > > > > it worth pointing out that it might be a useful exercise. > > > > > > > > > > Sorry my intent was not clear. I'm not concerned with justifying the > > > holding of the event. The point was to evaluate the return to this > > > project compared to other uses of funds, including Apache, sponsor and > > > individual time and expenses. My questions make no assumptions about > > > the intrinsic value of inter-project versus intranet-project > > > activities. And I certainly made no comment about your talk. In any > > > case the perceptions, of project members who attended the event, of > > > the value received and what was accomplished is very relevant. > > > > > > Remember, I need to argue for IBM attendance at events like this, so > > > I would appreciate it if you would stop fighting my serious and well > > > thought questions. > > > > > > -Rob > > > > > > > > > > My motivation is that having attended one AOO community event it is > > clear > > > > to me that not many people, if any, attended my Apache Way talk. > > However, > > > > there are many other ways to learn about the ASF at ApacheCon. I'd be > > > > interested if attendees felt it useful in this regard. > > > > > > > > Ross > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent from mobile, forgive terseness and errors > > > > On Nov 10, 2012 3:59 PM, "Rob Weir" <rabas...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > >> Ross, this isn't a "what if" survey based on what attendees might > have > > > >> done, but didn't. I'm interesting in their actual experiences. But > > > >> feel free to add a relevant additional question if you feel one is > > > >> missing. > > > >> > > > >> -Rob > > > >> > > > >> On Nov 10, 2012, at 10:04 AM, Ross Gardler < > > rgard...@opendirective.com> > > > >> wrote: > > > >> > > > >>> You missed how useful was it in learning about the ASF > > > >>> > > > >>> The problem is that the answers depend on how one approached the > > event. > > > >> If > > > >>> an individual only attended the AOO track then one would not > benefit > > > from > > > >>> the community track or other project specific tracks for example. > > > >>> > > > >>> Ross > > > >>> > > > >>> Sent from mobile, forgive terseness and errors > > > >>> On Nov 9, 2012 8:13 PM, "Rob Weir" <robw...@apache.org> wrote: > > > >>> > > > >>>> A few questions for those who attended in Sinsheim from the AOO > > > >>>> project. I'm hoping these answers will help us decide how to > > allocate > > > >>>> resources to future events. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> On a scale of 1-5, where 1 is lowest and 5 is highest, how > effective > > > >>>> was attending ApacheCon EU to you for each of the following: > > > >>>> > > > >>>> A. Meeting other AOO project members > > > >>>> > > > >>>> B. Gaining new information about AOO from the formal > presentations. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> C. Gaining new information about AOO from informal discussions > with > > > >>>> project members. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> D. Gaining new AOO users > > > >>>> > > > >>>> E. Recruiting new potential project members > > > >>>> > > > >>>> F. Educating others about AOO > > > >>>> > > > >>>> G. Learning more about other Apache projects > > > >>>> > > > >>>> H. Moving AOO project plans and/or technical decisions forward. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> T >
