Sorry Rob, I for one think you are doing the right thing collecting
experience after a conference !!

Instead of apacheCON just being what it is, you try to collect information
which we can use be be better in the future +1 for that !

Jan.


On 10 November 2012 18:54, Rob Weir <rabas...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Nov 10, 2012, at 12:16 PM, Ross Gardler <rgard...@opendirective.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Sure, my point is that what people did do is not necessarily
> representative
> > of the value of the event and thus is not necessarily a good indicator of
> > best use of funds. Since this was the stated intent of your mail I
> thought
> > it worth pointing out that it might be a useful exercise.
> >
>
> Sorry my intent was not clear.  I'm not concerned with justifying the
> holding of the event. The point was to evaluate the return to this
> project compared to other uses of funds, including Apache, sponsor and
> individual time and expenses. My questions make no assumptions about
> the intrinsic value of inter-project versus intranet-project
> activities. And I certainly made no comment about your talk.  In any
> case the perceptions, of project members who attended the event, of
> the value received and what was accomplished is very relevant.
>
> Remember, I need to argue for IBM attendance at events like this, so
> I would appreciate it if you would stop fighting my serious and well
> thought questions.
>
> -Rob
>
>
> > My motivation is that having attended one AOO community event it is clear
> > to me that not many people, if any, attended my Apache Way talk. However,
> > there are many other ways to learn about the ASF at ApacheCon. I'd be
> > interested if attendees felt it useful in this regard.
> >
> > Ross
> >
> >
> >
> > Sent from mobile, forgive terseness and errors
> > On Nov 10, 2012 3:59 PM, "Rob Weir" <rabas...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Ross, this isn't a "what if" survey based on what attendees might have
> >> done, but didn't. I'm interesting in their actual experiences. But
> >> feel free to add a relevant additional question if you feel one is
> >> missing.
> >>
> >> -Rob
> >>
> >> On Nov 10, 2012, at 10:04 AM, Ross Gardler <rgard...@opendirective.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> You missed how useful was it in learning about the ASF
> >>>
> >>> The problem is that the answers depend on how one approached the event.
> >> If
> >>> an individual only attended the AOO track then one would not benefit
> from
> >>> the community track or other project specific tracks for example.
> >>>
> >>> Ross
> >>>
> >>> Sent from mobile, forgive terseness and errors
> >>> On Nov 9, 2012 8:13 PM, "Rob Weir" <robw...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> A few questions for those who attended in Sinsheim from the AOO
> >>>> project.  I'm hoping these answers will help us decide how to allocate
> >>>> resources to future events.
> >>>>
> >>>> On a scale of 1-5, where 1 is lowest and 5 is highest, how effective
> >>>> was attending ApacheCon EU to you for each of the following:
> >>>>
> >>>> A. Meeting other AOO project members
> >>>>
> >>>> B. Gaining new information about AOO from the formal presentations.
> >>>>
> >>>> C. Gaining new information about AOO from informal discussions with
> >>>> project members.
> >>>>
> >>>> D. Gaining new AOO users
> >>>>
> >>>> E. Recruiting new potential project members
> >>>>
> >>>> F. Educating others about AOO
> >>>>
> >>>> G. Learning more about other Apache projects
> >>>>
> >>>> H. Moving AOO project plans and/or technical decisions forward.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks!
> >>>>
> >>>> -Rob
> >>
>

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