On Saturday, November 10, 2012, Ross Gardler wrote: > I still think you are missing my point. I would like to know if AOO people > found the event useful in learning about the ASF, hence my original > observation "You missed how useful was it in learning about the ASF'
Let's ask Andrea et al to chime in. From what I read in various notes our AOO crew did comment positively wrt to meeting folks from other projects. Makin > > I'm really not sure what you think I'm saying but your responses are really > confusing me so clearly we are talking past one another. Perhaps the > problem is that since I'm using a mobile my first comment missed a question > mark, its phrased as a question and is intended as one. > > Sent from mobile, forgive terseness and errors > On Nov 10, 2012 5:55 PM, "Rob Weir" <rabas...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Nov 10, 2012, at 12:16 PM, Ross Gardler <rgard...@opendirective.com> > > wrote: > > > > > Sure, my point is that what people did do is not necessarily > > representative > > > of the value of the event and thus is not necessarily a good indicator > of > > > best use of funds. Since this was the stated intent of your mail I > > thought > > > it worth pointing out that it might be a useful exercise. > > > > > > > Sorry my intent was not clear. I'm not concerned with justifying the > > holding of the event. The point was to evaluate the return to this > > project compared to other uses of funds, including Apache, sponsor and > > individual time and expenses. My questions make no assumptions about > > the intrinsic value of inter-project versus intranet-project > > activities. And I certainly made no comment about your talk. In any > > case the perceptions, of project members who attended the event, of > > the value received and what was accomplished is very relevant. > > > > Remember, I need to argue for IBM attendance at events like this, so > > I would appreciate it if you would stop fighting my serious and well > > thought questions. > > > > -Rob > > > > > > > My motivation is that having attended one AOO community event it is > clear > > > to me that not many people, if any, attended my Apache Way talk. > However, > > > there are many other ways to learn about the ASF at ApacheCon. I'd be > > > interested if attendees felt it useful in this regard. > > > > > > Ross > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent from mobile, forgive terseness and errors > > > On Nov 10, 2012 3:59 PM, "Rob Weir" <rabas...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > >> Ross, this isn't a "what if" survey based on what attendees might have > > >> done, but didn't. I'm interesting in their actual experiences. But > > >> feel free to add a relevant additional question if you feel one is > > >> missing. > > >> > > >> -Rob > > >> > > >> On Nov 10, 2012, at 10:04 AM, Ross Gardler < > rgard...@opendirective.com> > > >> wrote: > > >> > > >>> You missed how useful was it in learning about the ASF > > >>> > > >>> The problem is that the answers depend on how one approached the > event. > > >> If > > >>> an individual only attended the AOO track then one would not benefit > > from > > >>> the community track or other project specific tracks for example. > > >>> > > >>> Ross > > >>> > > >>> Sent from mobile, forgive terseness and errors > > >>> On Nov 9, 2012 8:13 PM, "Rob Weir" <robw...@apache.org> wrote: > > >>> > > >>>> A few questions for those who attended in Sinsheim from the AOO > > >>>> project. I'm hoping these answers will help us decide how to > allocate > > >>>> resources to future events. > > >>>> > > >>>> On a scale of 1-5, where 1 is lowest and 5 is highest, how effective > > >>>> was attending ApacheCon EU to you for each of the following: > > >>>> > > >>>> A. Meeting other AOO project members > > >>>> > > >>>> B. Gaining new information about AOO from the formal presentations. > > >>>> > > >>>> C. Gaining new information about AOO from informal discussions with > > >>>> project members. > > >>>> > > >>>> D. Gaining new AOO users > > >>>> > > >>>> E. Recruiting new potential project members > > >>>> > > >>>> F. Educating others about AOO > > >>>> > > >>>> G. Learning more about other Apache projects > > >>>> > > >>>> H. Moving AOO project plans and/or technical decisions forward. > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> T
