On Nov 10, 2012, at 1:30 PM, Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net> wrote:
> > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Nov 10, 2012, at 12:54 PM, Rob Weir <rabas...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On Nov 10, 2012, at 12:16 PM, Ross Gardler <rgard...@opendirective.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Sure, my point is that what people did do is not necessarily representative >>> of the value of the event and thus is not necessarily a good indicator of >>> best use of funds. Since this was the stated intent of your mail I thought >>> it worth pointing out that it might be a useful exercise. >> >> Sorry my intent was not clear. I'm not concerned with justifying the >> holding of the event. The point was to evaluate the return to this >> project compared to other uses of funds, including Apache, sponsor and >> individual time and expenses. My questions make no assumptions about >> the intrinsic value of inter-project versus intranet-project >> activities. And I certainly made no comment about your talk. In any >> case the perceptions, of project members who attended the event, of >> the value received and what was accomplished is very relevant. >> >> Remember, I need to argue for IBM attendance at events like this, so >> I would appreciate it if you would stop fighting my serious and well >> thought questions. > > It escapes me to understand why you would interpret Ross's comments as > fighting you. As you surely know there are many Apache projects where IBM and > IBM engineers have interest. > > I very much hope you are able to attend Apachecon US. I highly recommend an > Apache Way talk. I found it immensely helpful several years ago. > I saw Ross give an Apache Way talk a couple of years ago. Well worth seeing. I think it is online someplace as well. > Regards, > Dave > > >> >> -Rob >> >> >>> My motivation is that having attended one AOO community event it is clear >>> to me that not many people, if any, attended my Apache Way talk. However, >>> there are many other ways to learn about the ASF at ApacheCon. I'd be >>> interested if attendees felt it useful in this regard. >>> >>> Ross >>> >>> >>> >>> Sent from mobile, forgive terseness and errors >>> On Nov 10, 2012 3:59 PM, "Rob Weir" <rabas...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Ross, this isn't a "what if" survey based on what attendees might have >>>> done, but didn't. I'm interesting in their actual experiences. But >>>> feel free to add a relevant additional question if you feel one is >>>> missing. >>>> >>>> -Rob >>>> >>>> On Nov 10, 2012, at 10:04 AM, Ross Gardler <rgard...@opendirective.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> You missed how useful was it in learning about the ASF >>>>> >>>>> The problem is that the answers depend on how one approached the event. >>>> If >>>>> an individual only attended the AOO track then one would not benefit from >>>>> the community track or other project specific tracks for example. >>>>> >>>>> Ross >>>>> >>>>> Sent from mobile, forgive terseness and errors >>>>> On Nov 9, 2012 8:13 PM, "Rob Weir" <robw...@apache.org> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> A few questions for those who attended in Sinsheim from the AOO >>>>>> project. I'm hoping these answers will help us decide how to allocate >>>>>> resources to future events. >>>>>> >>>>>> On a scale of 1-5, where 1 is lowest and 5 is highest, how effective >>>>>> was attending ApacheCon EU to you for each of the following: >>>>>> >>>>>> A. Meeting other AOO project members >>>>>> >>>>>> B. Gaining new information about AOO from the formal presentations. >>>>>> >>>>>> C. Gaining new information about AOO from informal discussions with >>>>>> project members. >>>>>> >>>>>> D. Gaining new AOO users >>>>>> >>>>>> E. Recruiting new potential project members >>>>>> >>>>>> F. Educating others about AOO >>>>>> >>>>>> G. Learning more about other Apache projects >>>>>> >>>>>> H. Moving AOO project plans and/or technical decisions forward. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks! >>>>>> >>>>>> -Rob >>>>
