Hello all, I believe that sending an email to check if inactive PMCs are still interested or have stopped participating would already help address this cleanup.
However, I think this topic should be raised later in a dedicated thread. It requires further debate because, as Tomek mentioned, very few people are currently active in release deliveries or participating in votes. Having better metrics on active PMCs and committers would give us a clearer picture. Em qua., 7 de out. de 2026 às 19:58, Gregory Nutt <[email protected]> escreveu: > Well, not exactly. The board can remove a member with the PMCs documented > policy and recommendation. The full quote is: > > How to remove a PMC member unilaterally > If a PMC chooses to remove one of its members (without that member's > request or consent), the PMC must ask the Board to remove the member. The > PMC chair should send an email to the board@ mailing list detailing the > request for removal and the justification the PMC has for that removal, and > copy the project's private@ list. The board will review the request as > well as your project's mailing lists to see if the removal is controversial > or opposed, and then make a decision, typically at the next month's board > meeting. > Emeritus is something different. It is still a member but with no vote. > > ________________________________ > From: Alan C. Assis <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, October 7, 2026 4:02 PM > To: [email protected] <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [VOTE] Hosting Espressif HAL under Apache umbrella > > Hi Greg, > > Yes, I remember they told us that ("Merits never expire," etc.) > > But see here: https://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html > > "Should a PMC remove inactive members? > > Projects can establish their own policy on handling inactive members, as > long as they apply it consistently. It is not a problem to retain members > of the PMC who have become inactive, and it can make it easier for them to > stay in touch with the project if they choose to become active again." > > This means if we decide to do it, we legally can. > > I agree that merits never expire; perhaps we can display pictures of all > previous contributors on a wall inside the Apache Foundation, similar to > the pictures of previous presidents. Why not? :-D > > BR, > > Alan > > On Wed, Oct 7, 2026 at 6:23 PM Gregory Nutt <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > We can propose removing committers and PMCs who are not involved in the > > project (ASF allows this; we need to notify them). > > > > Are you sure of this. I recall being told that once a committer, you are > > a committer for life. I do find this: > > > > Note it is possible to remove a committer's access to repositories in an > > urgent situation, such as their account being taken over by a hacker. > > However, the PMC chair should not take this action for situations such > as a > > committer's extended inactivity. In 2026, the ASF Security team is > working > > on proposals that may clarify the conditions under which a committer's > > rights to commit code can be suspended or removed. > > > > My case is different.. I am officially emeritus. Emeritus members are > > required to be listed on the project page, but did not follow that. See > > https://infra.apache.org/committers.html and > > https://www.apache.org/foundation/members > > > > Emeritus members can re-instate themselves immediately without a vote if > > the wish to become full members again. Note: A person must ask to be > made > > emeritus. I don't think that the PMC has authority to modify anyone's > > membership. > > > > > -- *--Felipe Moura de Oliveira* Linkedin <https://www.linkedin.com/in/felipe-oliveira-75a651a0>
