I agree that having a "real life" OOoCon with sections that are virtual
will allow more people from all over the world to participate in the
Conf. This allows for more diverse and interesting ideas from a range
of people and cultures and this should be promoted.
It wouldn't - unfortunately - help save the environment but it is
certainly a compromise to Florian's belief that a real life OOoCon every
year is essential and a must have.
Hamish
On 17/12/2009 21:05, Gmail wrote:
Dear all,
I too support to enhance real-life OOoCon with more virtual elements, it will
allow more people form different countries, different communities, to join and
contribute ideas. Furthermore, by allow more people to join in the Conference
virtually, it will definitely become more energy efficient.
Sadly but to say, COP15 is on the verge of failure. No matter we are from which
community, there must be a way(or ways) for us to continue our work in good
manner, as mentioned by Cor, and still able to make positive contribution
protecting the environment, reducing carbon emission.
Regards,
Colin Ng.
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From: Cor Nouws [[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 3:32 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [marketing] Virtual OOoCon 2011?
Hi Florian,
Florian Effenberger wrote (17-12-09 07:59)
Hi John,
But would you think the same if you lived in New Zealand - or Canada - or
Vietnam?
I enjoy OOoCons very much, meeting old friends, and making new ones. I
don't know how effective they are for attracting new community members. A
team needs to be already well established and successful to make a
successful bid for an OOoCon. We have never held an OOoCon in North
America, where our presence is comparatively weak.
I don't know whether a virtual OOoCon would be more successful in
building
the community. It would certainly cause less damage to the planet.
I think this is a valuable discussion, and would encourage others to
join in!
I really see the problems, and I know that "we Europeans" are in a quite
comfortable situation, and others have it much harder to join us.
We can work on this, we can improve the situation -- either by getting
more funding, or by better integrating a virtual element into our
conferences: thinking of live streams, participation via Skype or IRC,
and such.
However, I think it does help no one if we cancel our "real life
conferences". Folks from New Zealand, Canada or Vietnam won't meet
people face to face nontheless, and the others would lose a great
ability to meet with friends and community.
I also do know that it cost a lot of effort -- time, money -- to run an
OOoCon, and we can also see if we can improve things on this end.
However, I'm still not convinced at all that cancelling OOoCon or moving
it to a two-year rhythm helps anyone. I doubt many people would attend a
virtual conference at all, and we'd lose a great way of communication.
Again, we can enhance the current "real life" conferences with some more
virtual elements, or have a separate virtual OOoCon (I favor the first
variant), but I'm against having a two-year scheme.
This is a look to the situation from perspective of our success, how
good our conferences are, how important they are.
A different perspective is to include environmental factors in the
picture. So that the question would be: how can we still do our work in
a good manner, but with less costs for the environment (which we still
not really feel in our spendings - not yet).
The interesting thing is, that this question, brought up by John, also
makes us aware of existing bottle necks etc. that maybe can addressed
with a different approach as well.
So could we make a win win of it? Yes we can!
Regards,
Cor
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