Daniel,

I think the problem here is that we have two different marketing strategists
arguing from their different experiences.  Ian is much more focused on the
idea that OOo can replace Microsoft - as would be the case with adopting OOo
as the predominant Office Suite in schools and government to work with MSO,
and Louis is trying to promote OOo as a simple migration - where format
isn't really an issue.  If OOo was the only suite to use odf and it wasn't
interoperable - it wouldn't really matter.

Personally, I think Ian's stance on this issue is more relevant to the
current OASIS debate.  Since ODF is now the ISO, it is going to be
government and the public sector that will make the switch first.  We need
to be extremely proactive in making the schools and governments switch over
to OOo.  If MS were to include the odf format in their next release then
there would be little need to offices to switch.  Like Ian, I believe
interoperability with MSO can only be good.  If OOo is completely
interoperable (with both MSO and OOo using OASIS standards) then OOo would
no doubt become the choice suite for the Home User (because it's a quality
product and also free).

As far as Daniel's group 1 and group 2 theories are involved, I think that
it is the best summary of the markets that OOo should be marketing to that I
have read on this list.  However, I would hasten to try and include a
differentiation between public and private sector.  I'm not 100% clear on
what stance MS are going to take on the odf, but were the 'Comment' and
'Track Changes' Features used in MSO interoperable with OOo's respective
features I know that OOo would be used on all my family's home computers.
Big Business is going to stick with MSO for the near future.  The way in
which OOo should try and get to these businesses is to become a viable
option for the business individuals' home computers.  In this way we would
get the exposure to potential clients without having corporate liability.

Both Louis and Ian have been doing lots of work with OOo.  It was Ian who
welcomed me to the list (which is a hell of an ego boost) and made me feel
like I should offer my time and efforts to support OOo.  Louis does much of
the bigger picture work, but in order for OOo to succeed with its disruptive
marketing plan... It needs to be able to rely on the small and personal
approach.  We promote giving the discs to friends... Bringing OOo up in
conversation... Please let's have some time for each other on this list.

I think we need to have a discussion at the conference 2006.  A decision
needs to be made upon what direction OOo is going to take.  I would
appreciate a reply from both Ian and Louis on this issue.  Am I right in the
aim of the project being interoperability for a real free market... or am I
working for a project that it more focused on its own success than
supporting the principle of a free market.

Andrew Loughran

-----Original Message-----
From: Daniel Carrera [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 07 May 2006 10:32
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Marketing] Publicity strategy

Graham wrote:
> Do we convince our clients run with OOo
> 
>    a) Because it is a great piece of software or
>    b) Because it's not Microsoft

I don't think that's what it's about. The origin of this thread was "how 
do we get press attention? (a) make a purely factual report (b) add a 
bit of controversy like 'OOo beats MS to ISO'"

This then diverted into whether Microsoft supporting ODF would help or 
harm OOo.

So, no one touched the issue of how to convince clients. The closest we 
got to was how to get more diggs. If I want to convince a client, I'd 
first look at what the client's needs and motivations are. If I know 
he's mainly interested in saving money, I'll focus on that. If I know 
he's a Microsoft hater, I'd play on that.


> However it cannot be OOo Marketing's position to try influence the 
> direction that our opposition should take,

Marketing's job is to do things that help OOo get more market share. 
Saying that MS should support ISO standards seems like a good strategy. 
It has the right level of controversy to get us in the mainstream news, 
so at a minimum you can see it as a tool to get free publicity.

> Certainly not as a first tier, but then I have a pathological objection 
> to mentioning a competitor in any upper level campaign,  so that may be 
> just me.

But marketing that mentions a competitor gets more attention both from 
the press and from readers. OOo vs MSO comparisons are a good strategy.

Cheers,
Daniel.
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