Hi, jspwiki-wiki.apache.org looks great on a computer screen.
Less so on a cell phone. Left menu is unreadable. Top menu goes out of screen first. Please do check with Chrome - developer options - device toolbar - iPhone 6 So, I do think next task for JSPWiki is mobile. Bring JSPWiki into the future. What would have to change for a responsive design? Left menu should go into a menu? What do you think? Greetings, Juergen 2017-07-01 20:18 GMT+02:00 Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez <juanpablo.san...@gmail.com>: > Hi! > > (retaking a rather old thread..) > > new website is available now, there are a couple of improvements waiting to > be deployed, but basically it's there. > Also, almost all the site is now running under jspwiki-wiki.apache.org > > > br, > jp > > On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 2:07 PM, Dave Koelmeyer < > dave.koelme...@davekoelmeyer.co.nz> wrote: > >> Hi All, >> >> On 15/04/17 11:34 PM, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> ok it's done now, and the accordion idea looks really nice :-D thanks >>> Dirk! >>> >>> for the ASF branding links I went with a table on LeftMenuFooter, it >>> doesn't look bad, but anyone with a better idea feel free to go with it. >>> >>> As for requesting the site. Currently we're waiting at INFRA-13716 to be >>> moved away from a ASF CMS based site to a JBake-based one. I'd prefer to >>> wait for this to be done before requesting anything else, in order to >>> avoid >>> any confusion down the road. >>> >>> My suggestion is, once this is done, we request that >>> http://jspwiki.apache.org/site serves our wiki, so we can put a redirect >>> to >>> it from the main index.html of the JBake-based site. jspwiki-wiki.a.o >>> would >>> be also retained, so any old link to our wiki isn't lost. >>> >>> sounds reasonable? >>> >> >> Sorry I dropped the ball a bit on this one—this all looks and sounds >> great. A bit late, but can you please let me know if there's anything you >> need a hand with at this stage? >> >> Cheers, >> Dave >> >> -- >> Dave Koelmeyer >> http://blog.davekoelmeyer.co.nz >> GPG Key ID: 0x238BFF87 >> The Document Foundation (TDF) member >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> Hi Dirk, >>>> >>>> I like very much the accordion idea! I'll play with it and come back here >>>> when finished. >>>> >>>> >>>> cheers, >>>> jp >>>> >>>> On Sat, Apr 15, 2017 at 8:33 AM, Dirk Frederickx < >>>> dirk.frederi...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Pablo, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> - left menu links: >>>>> You could use %%accordion for the different sections in the >>>>> left-menu. >>>>> This will only make the User section fully expanded. >>>>> The other sections can then be opened with a click. >>>>> >>>>> To keep the markup simple & readable, you can use ordinary list >>>>> bullets >>>>> for the different links; like so: >>>>> >>>>> %%accordion >>>>> !Users >>>>> %%list-unstyled >>>>> * [JSPWiki's website|http://jspwiki.apache.org] >>>>> * [Download JSPWiki|Downloads] >>>>> * [Wiki Syntax] >>>>> * [Getting Started] >>>>> * [Getting Involved] >>>>> * [Documentation] >>>>> * [Mailing lists|Mailing Lists] >>>>> * [ReleaseNotes|NewIn] >>>>> * [FAQ] >>>>> /% >>>>> !Developpers >>>>> .... >>>>> /% >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> - apache branding: >>>>> LeftMenuFooter would probably be the best place to add this info. >>>>> We should avoid putting such info in the template jsp's, cause that >>>>> would make it less easy to change by a user/admin of a JSPWiki site. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> dirk >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 9:24 PM, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez < >>>>> juanpablo.san...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi! >>>>>> >>>>>> finally, just've finished migrating the content from the site to >>>>>> jspwiki-wiki.a.o. There are a couple of things pending, though: >>>>>> >>>>>> - left menu links: I'd like to retain the structure of jspwiki.a.o, but >>>>>> that would imply losing some actual links on jspwiki-wiki.a.o's >>>>>> LeftMenu >>>>>> page. Also, with LeftMenuFooter inserting a couple of plugins, it would >>>>>> also mean that the left menu would normally *not* fit on screen.. >>>>>> >>>>> thoughts >>>>> >>>>>> on how to solve? perhaps with a style to make links smaller? or perhaps >>>>>> reorganize them? >>>>>> >>>>>> - ASF links: jspwiki.a.o has some links on the top right corner and at >>>>>> >>>>> the >>>>> >>>>>> end of the left menu which have to be there to comply with Apache >>>>>> >>>>> Branding >>>>> >>>>>> guidelines (they must exist and be prominently visible, that is, not at >>>>>> >>>>> the >>>>> >>>>>> bottom of the page). Thoughts on how to place them? would a slightly >>>>>> customized template be enough? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> thanks + br, >>>>>> juan pablo >>>>>> >>>>>> ps: I'm a couple of days late on presenting this quarter's board >>>>>> report, >>>>>> most probably will came up with a draft tomorrow morning, and would >>>>>> >>>>> like to >>>>> >>>>>> send it the day after at most.. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 9:06 PM, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez < >>>>>> juanpablo.san...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi Dave, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> (apologies on the delayed response) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Don't know if it is too late, but I'd like to ask for a couple of >>>>>>> >>>>>> changes: >>>>>> >>>>>>> - first, make the old site so it could still be accesible through, >>>>>>> >>>>>> f.ex., >>>>> >>>>>> http://jspwiki.apache.org/old >>>>>>> just in case there's a (wiki) VM failure, we could point to the old >>>>>>> >>>>>> one. >>>>>> >>>>>>> As a bonus, the javadocs >>>>>>> would still be accesible through http://jspwiki.apache.org/apidocs >>>>>>> - second, make the wiki available through both >>>>>>> >>>>>> http://jspwiki.apache.org >>>>> >>>>>> and http://jspwiki-wiki.apache.org. >>>>>>> Make the first the "official" link for wiki docs, keep the second >>>>>>> >>>>>> so we >>>>> >>>>>> don't have dead links >>>>>>> (I prefer jspwiki.a.o over jspwiki-wiki.a.o, which seems redundant >>>>>>> >>>>>> to >>>>> >>>>>> me). In case this combination >>>>>>> is not feasable, keep the wiki under >>>>>>> http://jspwiki.apache.org/docs >>>>>>> >>>>>> (or >>>>>> >>>>>>> whatever), and place a redirect >>>>>>> under jspwiki.a.o/index.html to http://jspwiki.apache.org/docs so >>>>>>> >>>>>> it >>>>> >>>>>> "feels" as the project's home page. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> sounds reasonable? WDYT? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The first change and the redirect part on the second are very easily >>>>>>> doable under the current CMS. As for >>>>>>> other part, I know I volunteered for it, but hadn't made any progress >>>>>>> >>>>>> yet, >>>>>> >>>>>>> shame on me :-/ In any case, please >>>>>>> feel free to start migrating the content! Any progress in there will >>>>>>> >>>>>> be >>>>> >>>>>> better than my current no-progress at it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Last, in case all of the above sounds reasonable, I'll request a new >>>>>>> >>>>>> git >>>>> >>>>>> repo to hold the site in there, actually >>>>>>> it's still placed on svn.. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> best regards + thanks for bringing this up! >>>>>>> juan pablo >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sun, Mar 12, 2017 at 2:31 AM, Dave Koelmeyer < >>>>>>> dave.koelme...@davekoelmeyer.co.nz> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi All, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So it sounds like we can go ahead with requesting a redirect from >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> infra >>>>> >>>>>> to point jspwiki.apache.org at jspwiki-wiki.apache.org? Happy to get >>>>>>>> this underway and take on migrating any content from the old site. As >>>>>>>> far as I'm aware, the only outstanding consideration is the >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> javadocs—I >>>>> >>>>>> don't know enough about this to suggest where to host these, so >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> perhaps >>>>> >>>>>> someone can look into this? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>> Dave >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 13/08/16 00:51, Dirk Frederickx wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The HADDOCK template now shows the Apache brand , while previously >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> the >>>>>> >>>>>>> default JSPWiki template didn't. >>>>>>>>> So maybe now a single JPSWiki homepage would be possible >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> dirk >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 2:09 PM, Harry Metske < >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> harry.met...@gmail.com >>>>> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I remember we have had a sort of discussion with the infra team >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> about >>>>> >>>>>> this. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The end of the discussion was that we came to what we have now, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> but I >>>>> >>>>>> cannot remember anymore what the exact reasons were. >>>>>>>>>> We could ask them what their opinion is now... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I am not so worried about having some downtime every now and then, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> it's not >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> that critical. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> regards, >>>>>>>>>> Harry >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 12 August 2016 at 13:59, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez < >>>>>>>>>> juanpablo.san...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> (a little bit late, but) in that case wouldn't it be easier to >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ask >>>>> >>>>>> infra >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> point jspwiki.apache.org directly to the wiki? There are some >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> brand >>>>> >>>>>> requirements we should follow (most of the upper right links, the >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Apache >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> section on the left, and the footer, if I recall correctly) and >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> we >>>>> >>>>>> would >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> have to find a place for javadocs, but this shouldn't be a >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> showstopper. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> My only concern with this is having the wiki always up, the CMS >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> is >>>>> >>>>>> clunkier >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> to update, but it is always up, whereas the wiki VM has had a few >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> small >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> (=hours) hiccups. But other than that, it's how jspwiki.org >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> was/is >>>>> >>>>>> setup, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> so I'm not opposed to switch to a full wiki homepage. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> thoughts? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> best regards, >>>>>>>>>>> juan pablo >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 6, 2016 at 1:28 PM, Harry Metske < >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> harry.met...@gmail.com> >>>>>> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> my suggestion was the latter (redirect from jspwiki.apache.org >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>> >>>>>> jspwiki-wiki.apache.org) >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 5 August 2016 at 14:17, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez < >>>>>>>>>>>> juanpablo.san...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Harry, >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> technical issues aside, I'm not sure I'm following what you're >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> proposing, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> if replacing jspwiki.a.o with our wiki, or if having something >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> like >>>>>> >>>>>>> jspwiki.a.o/wiki redirecting to the wiki? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> for the former I think it would be easier to ask infra to >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> directly >>>>> >>>>>> point >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> jspwiki.a.o to the wiki vm. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> for the latter I think I'd be able to make a quick commit this >>>>>>>>>>>>> afternoon/weekend, it's very simimlar to what we're currently >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> doing >>>>>> >>>>>>> with >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> the javadocs; it's matter of adding an entry to >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/jspwiki/site/trunk/ >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> content/extpaths.txt >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> and then commiting the desired directory+file to >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/infra/websites/production/ >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> jspwiki/content/ >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> .. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> br, >>>>>>>>>>>>> juan pablo >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 1:42 PM, Harry Metske < >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> harry.met...@gmail.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> can't we just make that page empty and only put some html/js >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> over >>>>> >>>>>> there >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> that immediately redirects to the wiki home page? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5 August 2016 at 11:28, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez < >>>>>>>>>>>>>> juanpablo.san...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Dave, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IMO there isn't any showstopper, only that generating the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> site >>>>> >>>>>> locally >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> is a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bit complicated. The site, with instructions on how to build >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> it >>>>> >>>>>> locally, >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in SVN at https://svn.apache.org/repos/a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> sf/jspwiki/site/trunk/ >>>>> >>>>>> with >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> old >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> template sitting at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/jspwiki/site/trunk/template >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> s/ >>>>> >>>>>> That said, as we're not updating very often the site, rather >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> than >>>>>> >>>>>>> building >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> locally, perhaps is easier to use the CMS bookmarklet and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> keep >>>>> >>>>>> pushing >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> changes to staging area until the new template is ready to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> go. >>>>> >>>>>> Regarding the different url for jspwiki-wiki.a.o, don't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> remember >>>>> >>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> specifics but, long story short, when setting up the vm to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> host >>>>> >>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> wiki, >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Infra team found easier to set it up at the actual >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> location >>>>> >>>>>> and, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> as >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> our >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> request took several months to complete (delays on both >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> sides), >>>>> >>>>>> we >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> didn't >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> push to have the wiki inside jspwiki.a.o. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> br, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> juan pablo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 5:31 AM, Dave Koelmeyer < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dave.koelme...@davekoelmeyer.co.nz> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi All, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Quick question, the homepage for JSPWiki is currently: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://jspwiki.apache.org/ – and as can be seen it's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> running >>>>> >>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> old >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> template. Perhaps not the best first impression :) Is there >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any >>>>> >>>>>> show-stopper preventing switching this to Haddock? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (On a related note I'm not quite sure why there are two >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> separate >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> sites, >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> when the content of https://jspwiki-wiki.apache.org/ could >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> sit >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the same instance as https://jspwiki.apache.org/, but >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that's >>>>> >>>>>> not a >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> big >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> deal.) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dave >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dave Koelmeyer >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://blog.davekoelmeyer.co.nz >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GPG Key ID: 0x238BFF87 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Dave Koelmeyer >>>>>>>> http://blog.davekoelmeyer.co.nz >>>>>>>> GPG Key ID: 0x238BFF87 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >>
