Hi! (retaking a rather old thread..)
new website is available now, there are a couple of improvements waiting to be deployed, but basically it's there. Also, almost all the site is now running under jspwiki-wiki.apache.org br, jp On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 2:07 PM, Dave Koelmeyer < dave.koelme...@davekoelmeyer.co.nz> wrote: > Hi All, > > On 15/04/17 11:34 PM, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> ok it's done now, and the accordion idea looks really nice :-D thanks >> Dirk! >> >> for the ASF branding links I went with a table on LeftMenuFooter, it >> doesn't look bad, but anyone with a better idea feel free to go with it. >> >> As for requesting the site. Currently we're waiting at INFRA-13716 to be >> moved away from a ASF CMS based site to a JBake-based one. I'd prefer to >> wait for this to be done before requesting anything else, in order to >> avoid >> any confusion down the road. >> >> My suggestion is, once this is done, we request that >> http://jspwiki.apache.org/site serves our wiki, so we can put a redirect >> to >> it from the main index.html of the JBake-based site. jspwiki-wiki.a.o >> would >> be also retained, so any old link to our wiki isn't lost. >> >> sounds reasonable? >> > > Sorry I dropped the ball a bit on this one—this all looks and sounds > great. A bit late, but can you please let me know if there's anything you > need a hand with at this stage? > > Cheers, > Dave > > -- > Dave Koelmeyer > http://blog.davekoelmeyer.co.nz > GPG Key ID: 0x238BFF87 > The Document Foundation (TDF) member > > > > > > >> Hi Dirk, >>> >>> I like very much the accordion idea! I'll play with it and come back here >>> when finished. >>> >>> >>> cheers, >>> jp >>> >>> On Sat, Apr 15, 2017 at 8:33 AM, Dirk Frederickx < >>> dirk.frederi...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Pablo, >>>> >>>> >>>> - left menu links: >>>> You could use %%accordion for the different sections in the >>>> left-menu. >>>> This will only make the User section fully expanded. >>>> The other sections can then be opened with a click. >>>> >>>> To keep the markup simple & readable, you can use ordinary list >>>> bullets >>>> for the different links; like so: >>>> >>>> %%accordion >>>> !Users >>>> %%list-unstyled >>>> * [JSPWiki's website|http://jspwiki.apache.org] >>>> * [Download JSPWiki|Downloads] >>>> * [Wiki Syntax] >>>> * [Getting Started] >>>> * [Getting Involved] >>>> * [Documentation] >>>> * [Mailing lists|Mailing Lists] >>>> * [ReleaseNotes|NewIn] >>>> * [FAQ] >>>> /% >>>> !Developpers >>>> .... >>>> /% >>>> >>>> >>>> - apache branding: >>>> LeftMenuFooter would probably be the best place to add this info. >>>> We should avoid putting such info in the template jsp's, cause that >>>> would make it less easy to change by a user/admin of a JSPWiki site. >>>> >>>> >>>> dirk >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 9:24 PM, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez < >>>> juanpablo.san...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi! >>>>> >>>>> finally, just've finished migrating the content from the site to >>>>> jspwiki-wiki.a.o. There are a couple of things pending, though: >>>>> >>>>> - left menu links: I'd like to retain the structure of jspwiki.a.o, but >>>>> that would imply losing some actual links on jspwiki-wiki.a.o's >>>>> LeftMenu >>>>> page. Also, with LeftMenuFooter inserting a couple of plugins, it would >>>>> also mean that the left menu would normally *not* fit on screen.. >>>>> >>>> thoughts >>>> >>>>> on how to solve? perhaps with a style to make links smaller? or perhaps >>>>> reorganize them? >>>>> >>>>> - ASF links: jspwiki.a.o has some links on the top right corner and at >>>>> >>>> the >>>> >>>>> end of the left menu which have to be there to comply with Apache >>>>> >>>> Branding >>>> >>>>> guidelines (they must exist and be prominently visible, that is, not at >>>>> >>>> the >>>> >>>>> bottom of the page). Thoughts on how to place them? would a slightly >>>>> customized template be enough? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> thanks + br, >>>>> juan pablo >>>>> >>>>> ps: I'm a couple of days late on presenting this quarter's board >>>>> report, >>>>> most probably will came up with a draft tomorrow morning, and would >>>>> >>>> like to >>>> >>>>> send it the day after at most.. >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 9:06 PM, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez < >>>>> juanpablo.san...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Dave, >>>>>> >>>>>> (apologies on the delayed response) >>>>>> >>>>>> Don't know if it is too late, but I'd like to ask for a couple of >>>>>> >>>>> changes: >>>>> >>>>>> - first, make the old site so it could still be accesible through, >>>>>> >>>>> f.ex., >>>> >>>>> http://jspwiki.apache.org/old >>>>>> just in case there's a (wiki) VM failure, we could point to the old >>>>>> >>>>> one. >>>>> >>>>>> As a bonus, the javadocs >>>>>> would still be accesible through http://jspwiki.apache.org/apidocs >>>>>> - second, make the wiki available through both >>>>>> >>>>> http://jspwiki.apache.org >>>> >>>>> and http://jspwiki-wiki.apache.org. >>>>>> Make the first the "official" link for wiki docs, keep the second >>>>>> >>>>> so we >>>> >>>>> don't have dead links >>>>>> (I prefer jspwiki.a.o over jspwiki-wiki.a.o, which seems redundant >>>>>> >>>>> to >>>> >>>>> me). In case this combination >>>>>> is not feasable, keep the wiki under >>>>>> http://jspwiki.apache.org/docs >>>>>> >>>>> (or >>>>> >>>>>> whatever), and place a redirect >>>>>> under jspwiki.a.o/index.html to http://jspwiki.apache.org/docs so >>>>>> >>>>> it >>>> >>>>> "feels" as the project's home page. >>>>>> >>>>>> sounds reasonable? WDYT? >>>>>> >>>>>> The first change and the redirect part on the second are very easily >>>>>> doable under the current CMS. As for >>>>>> other part, I know I volunteered for it, but hadn't made any progress >>>>>> >>>>> yet, >>>>> >>>>>> shame on me :-/ In any case, please >>>>>> feel free to start migrating the content! Any progress in there will >>>>>> >>>>> be >>>> >>>>> better than my current no-progress at it. >>>>>> >>>>>> Last, in case all of the above sounds reasonable, I'll request a new >>>>>> >>>>> git >>>> >>>>> repo to hold the site in there, actually >>>>>> it's still placed on svn.. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> best regards + thanks for bringing this up! >>>>>> juan pablo >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, Mar 12, 2017 at 2:31 AM, Dave Koelmeyer < >>>>>> dave.koelme...@davekoelmeyer.co.nz> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi All, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So it sounds like we can go ahead with requesting a redirect from >>>>>>> >>>>>> infra >>>> >>>>> to point jspwiki.apache.org at jspwiki-wiki.apache.org? Happy to get >>>>>>> this underway and take on migrating any content from the old site. As >>>>>>> far as I'm aware, the only outstanding consideration is the >>>>>>> >>>>>> javadocs—I >>>> >>>>> don't know enough about this to suggest where to host these, so >>>>>>> >>>>>> perhaps >>>> >>>>> someone can look into this? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>> Dave >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 13/08/16 00:51, Dirk Frederickx wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The HADDOCK template now shows the Apache brand , while previously >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> the >>>>> >>>>>> default JSPWiki template didn't. >>>>>>>> So maybe now a single JPSWiki homepage would be possible >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> dirk >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 2:09 PM, Harry Metske < >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> harry.met...@gmail.com >>>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I remember we have had a sort of discussion with the infra team >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> about >>>> >>>>> this. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The end of the discussion was that we came to what we have now, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> but I >>>> >>>>> cannot remember anymore what the exact reasons were. >>>>>>>>> We could ask them what their opinion is now... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I am not so worried about having some downtime every now and then, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> it's not >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> that critical. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> regards, >>>>>>>>> Harry >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 12 August 2016 at 13:59, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez < >>>>>>>>> juanpablo.san...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> (a little bit late, but) in that case wouldn't it be easier to >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ask >>>> >>>>> infra >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> point jspwiki.apache.org directly to the wiki? There are some >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> brand >>>> >>>>> requirements we should follow (most of the upper right links, the >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Apache >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> section on the left, and the footer, if I recall correctly) and >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> we >>>> >>>>> would >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> have to find a place for javadocs, but this shouldn't be a >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> showstopper. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> My only concern with this is having the wiki always up, the CMS >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> is >>>> >>>>> clunkier >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> to update, but it is always up, whereas the wiki VM has had a few >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> small >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> (=hours) hiccups. But other than that, it's how jspwiki.org >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> was/is >>>> >>>>> setup, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> so I'm not opposed to switch to a full wiki homepage. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> thoughts? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> best regards, >>>>>>>>>> juan pablo >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 6, 2016 at 1:28 PM, Harry Metske < >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> harry.met...@gmail.com> >>>>> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> my suggestion was the latter (redirect from jspwiki.apache.org >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> to >>>> >>>>> jspwiki-wiki.apache.org) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 5 August 2016 at 14:17, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez < >>>>>>>>>>> juanpablo.san...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi Harry, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> technical issues aside, I'm not sure I'm following what you're >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> proposing, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> if replacing jspwiki.a.o with our wiki, or if having something >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> like >>>>> >>>>>> jspwiki.a.o/wiki redirecting to the wiki? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> for the former I think it would be easier to ask infra to >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> directly >>>> >>>>> point >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> jspwiki.a.o to the wiki vm. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> for the latter I think I'd be able to make a quick commit this >>>>>>>>>>>> afternoon/weekend, it's very simimlar to what we're currently >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> doing >>>>> >>>>>> with >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> the javadocs; it's matter of adding an entry to >>>>>>>>>>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/jspwiki/site/trunk/ >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> content/extpaths.txt >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> and then commiting the desired directory+file to >>>>>>>>>>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/infra/websites/production/ >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> jspwiki/content/ >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> .. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> br, >>>>>>>>>>>> juan pablo >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 1:42 PM, Harry Metske < >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> harry.met...@gmail.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> can't we just make that page empty and only put some html/js >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> over >>>> >>>>> there >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> that immediately redirects to the wiki home page? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5 August 2016 at 11:28, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez < >>>>>>>>>>>>> juanpablo.san...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Dave, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> IMO there isn't any showstopper, only that generating the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> site >>>> >>>>> locally >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> is a >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> bit complicated. The site, with instructions on how to build >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> it >>>> >>>>> locally, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> in SVN at https://svn.apache.org/repos/a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> sf/jspwiki/site/trunk/ >>>> >>>>> with >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> old >>>>>>>>>>>>>> template sitting at >>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/jspwiki/site/trunk/template >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> s/ >>>> >>>>> That said, as we're not updating very often the site, rather >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> than >>>>> >>>>>> building >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> locally, perhaps is easier to use the CMS bookmarklet and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> keep >>>> >>>>> pushing >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> changes to staging area until the new template is ready to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> go. >>>> >>>>> Regarding the different url for jspwiki-wiki.a.o, don't >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> remember >>>> >>>>> the >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> specifics but, long story short, when setting up the vm to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> host >>>> >>>>> the >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> wiki, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> the Infra team found easier to set it up at the actual >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> location >>>> >>>>> and, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> as >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> our >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> request took several months to complete (delays on both >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> sides), >>>> >>>>> we >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> didn't >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> push to have the wiki inside jspwiki.a.o. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> br, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> juan pablo >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 5:31 AM, Dave Koelmeyer < >>>>>>>>>>>>>> dave.koelme...@davekoelmeyer.co.nz> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi All, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Quick question, the homepage for JSPWiki is currently: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://jspwiki.apache.org/ – and as can be seen it's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> running >>>> >>>>> the >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> old >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> template. Perhaps not the best first impression :) Is there >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> any >>>> >>>>> show-stopper preventing switching this to Haddock? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (On a related note I'm not quite sure why there are two >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> separate >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> sites, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> when the content of https://jspwiki-wiki.apache.org/ could >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> just >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> sit >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> the same instance as https://jspwiki.apache.org/, but >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> that's >>>> >>>>> not a >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> big >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> deal.) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dave >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dave Koelmeyer >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://blog.davekoelmeyer.co.nz >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GPG Key ID: 0x238BFF87 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Dave Koelmeyer >>>>>>> http://blog.davekoelmeyer.co.nz >>>>>>> GPG Key ID: 0x238BFF87 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>> >