Hi!

(retaking a rather old thread..)

new website is available now, there are a couple of improvements waiting to
be deployed, but basically it's there.
Also, almost all the site is now running under jspwiki-wiki.apache.org


br,
jp

On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 2:07 PM, Dave Koelmeyer <
dave.koelme...@davekoelmeyer.co.nz> wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> On 15/04/17 11:34 PM, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> ok it's done now, and the accordion idea looks really nice :-D thanks
>> Dirk!
>>
>> for the ASF branding links I went with a table on LeftMenuFooter, it
>> doesn't look bad, but anyone with a better idea feel free to go with it.
>>
>> As for requesting the site. Currently we're waiting at INFRA-13716 to be
>> moved away from a ASF CMS based site to a JBake-based one. I'd prefer to
>> wait for this to be done before requesting anything else, in order to
>> avoid
>> any confusion down the road.
>>
>> My suggestion is, once this is done, we request that
>> http://jspwiki.apache.org/site serves our wiki, so we can put a redirect
>> to
>> it from the main index.html of the JBake-based site. jspwiki-wiki.a.o
>> would
>> be also retained, so any old link to our wiki isn't lost.
>>
>> sounds reasonable?
>>
>
> Sorry I dropped the ball a bit on this one—this all looks and sounds
> great. A bit late, but can you please let me know if there's anything you
> need a hand with at this stage?
>
> Cheers,
> Dave
>
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>> Hi Dirk,
>>>
>>> I like very much the accordion idea! I'll play with it and come back here
>>> when finished.
>>>
>>>
>>> cheers,
>>> jp
>>>
>>> On Sat, Apr 15, 2017 at 8:33 AM, Dirk Frederickx <
>>> dirk.frederi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Pablo,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> - left menu links:
>>>>     You could use %%accordion for the different sections in the
>>>> left-menu.
>>>> This will only make the User section fully expanded.
>>>>     The other sections  can then be opened with a click.
>>>>
>>>>     To keep the markup simple & readable,  you can use ordinary list
>>>> bullets
>>>> for the different links;  like so:
>>>>
>>>> %%accordion
>>>> !Users
>>>> %%list-unstyled
>>>> * [JSPWiki's website|http://jspwiki.apache.org]
>>>> * [Download JSPWiki|Downloads]
>>>> * [Wiki Syntax]
>>>> * [Getting Started]
>>>> * [Getting Involved]
>>>> * [Documentation]
>>>> * [Mailing lists|Mailing Lists]
>>>> * [ReleaseNotes|NewIn]
>>>> * [FAQ]
>>>> /%
>>>> !Developpers
>>>> ....
>>>> /%
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> - apache branding:
>>>>    LeftMenuFooter would probably be the best place to add this info.
>>>>    We should avoid putting such info in the template jsp's,  cause that
>>>> would make it less easy to change by a user/admin of a JSPWiki site.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> dirk
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 9:24 PM, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez <
>>>> juanpablo.san...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi!
>>>>>
>>>>> finally, just've finished migrating the content from the site to
>>>>> jspwiki-wiki.a.o. There are a couple of things pending, though:
>>>>>
>>>>> - left menu links: I'd like to retain the structure of jspwiki.a.o, but
>>>>> that would imply losing some actual links on jspwiki-wiki.a.o's
>>>>> LeftMenu
>>>>> page. Also, with LeftMenuFooter inserting a couple of plugins, it would
>>>>> also mean that the left menu would normally *not* fit on screen..
>>>>>
>>>> thoughts
>>>>
>>>>> on how to solve? perhaps with a style to make links smaller? or perhaps
>>>>> reorganize them?
>>>>>
>>>>> - ASF links: jspwiki.a.o has some links on the top right corner and at
>>>>>
>>>> the
>>>>
>>>>> end of the left menu which have to be there to comply with Apache
>>>>>
>>>> Branding
>>>>
>>>>> guidelines (they must exist and be prominently visible, that is, not at
>>>>>
>>>> the
>>>>
>>>>> bottom of the page). Thoughts on how to place them? would a slightly
>>>>> customized template be enough?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> thanks + br,
>>>>> juan pablo
>>>>>
>>>>> ps: I'm a couple of days late on presenting this quarter's board
>>>>> report,
>>>>> most probably will came up with a draft tomorrow morning, and would
>>>>>
>>>> like to
>>>>
>>>>> send it the day after at most..
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 9:06 PM, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez <
>>>>> juanpablo.san...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Dave,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (apologies on the delayed response)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Don't know if it is too late, but I'd like to ask for a couple of
>>>>>>
>>>>> changes:
>>>>>
>>>>>> - first, make the old site so it could still be accesible through,
>>>>>>
>>>>> f.ex.,
>>>>
>>>>> http://jspwiki.apache.org/old
>>>>>>    just in case there's a (wiki) VM failure, we could point to the old
>>>>>>
>>>>> one.
>>>>>
>>>>>> As a bonus, the javadocs
>>>>>>    would still be accesible through http://jspwiki.apache.org/apidocs
>>>>>> - second, make the wiki available through both
>>>>>>
>>>>> http://jspwiki.apache.org
>>>>
>>>>> and http://jspwiki-wiki.apache.org.
>>>>>>    Make the first the "official" link for wiki docs, keep the second
>>>>>>
>>>>> so we
>>>>
>>>>> don't have dead links
>>>>>>    (I prefer jspwiki.a.o over jspwiki-wiki.a.o, which seems redundant
>>>>>>
>>>>> to
>>>>
>>>>> me). In case this combination
>>>>>>    is not feasable, keep the wiki under
>>>>>> http://jspwiki.apache.org/docs
>>>>>>
>>>>> (or
>>>>>
>>>>>> whatever), and place a redirect
>>>>>>    under jspwiki.a.o/index.html to http://jspwiki.apache.org/docs so
>>>>>>
>>>>> it
>>>>
>>>>> "feels" as the project's home page.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> sounds reasonable? WDYT?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The first change and the redirect part on the second are very easily
>>>>>> doable under the current CMS. As for
>>>>>> other part, I know I volunteered for it, but hadn't made any progress
>>>>>>
>>>>> yet,
>>>>>
>>>>>> shame on me :-/ In any case, please
>>>>>> feel free to start migrating the content! Any progress in there will
>>>>>>
>>>>> be
>>>>
>>>>> better than my current no-progress at it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Last, in case all of the above sounds reasonable, I'll request a new
>>>>>>
>>>>> git
>>>>
>>>>> repo to hold the site in there, actually
>>>>>> it's still placed on svn..
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> best regards + thanks for bringing this up!
>>>>>> juan pablo
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Mar 12, 2017 at 2:31 AM, Dave Koelmeyer <
>>>>>> dave.koelme...@davekoelmeyer.co.nz> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So it sounds like we can go ahead with requesting a redirect from
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> infra
>>>>
>>>>> to point jspwiki.apache.org at jspwiki-wiki.apache.org? Happy to get
>>>>>>> this underway and take on migrating any content from the old site. As
>>>>>>> far as I'm aware, the only outstanding consideration is the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> javadocs—I
>>>>
>>>>> don't know enough about this to suggest where to host these, so
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> perhaps
>>>>
>>>>> someone can look into this?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 13/08/16 00:51, Dirk Frederickx wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The HADDOCK template now shows the Apache brand ,  while previously
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>
>>>>>> default JSPWiki template didn't.
>>>>>>>> So maybe now a single JPSWiki homepage would be possible
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> dirk
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 2:09 PM, Harry Metske <
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> harry.met...@gmail.com
>>>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I remember we have had a sort of discussion with the infra team
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> about
>>>>
>>>>> this.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The end of the discussion was that we came to what we have now,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> but I
>>>>
>>>>> cannot remember anymore what the exact reasons were.
>>>>>>>>> We could ask them what their opinion is now...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I am not so worried about having some downtime every now and then,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> it's not
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> that critical.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> regards,
>>>>>>>>> Harry
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 12 August 2016 at 13:59, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez <
>>>>>>>>> juanpablo.san...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> (a little bit late, but) in that case wouldn't it be easier to
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ask
>>>>
>>>>> infra
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> point jspwiki.apache.org directly to the wiki? There are some
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> brand
>>>>
>>>>> requirements we should follow (most of the upper right links, the
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Apache
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> section on the left, and the footer, if I recall correctly) and
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>
>>>>> would
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> have to find a place for javadocs, but this shouldn't be a
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> showstopper.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My only concern with this is having the wiki always up, the CMS
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>
>>>>> clunkier
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> to update, but it is always up, whereas the wiki VM has had a few
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> small
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> (=hours) hiccups. But other than that, it's how jspwiki.org
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> was/is
>>>>
>>>>> setup,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> so I'm not opposed to switch to a full wiki homepage.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> thoughts?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> best regards,
>>>>>>>>>> juan pablo
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 6, 2016 at 1:28 PM, Harry Metske <
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> harry.met...@gmail.com>
>>>>>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> my suggestion was the latter (redirect from jspwiki.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>
>>>>> jspwiki-wiki.apache.org)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 5 August 2016 at 14:17, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez <
>>>>>>>>>>> juanpablo.san...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Harry,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> technical issues aside, I'm not sure I'm following what you're
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> proposing,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> if replacing jspwiki.a.o with our wiki, or if having something
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>
>>>>>> jspwiki.a.o/wiki redirecting to the wiki?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> for the former I think it would be easier to ask infra to
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> directly
>>>>
>>>>> point
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> jspwiki.a.o to the wiki vm.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> for the latter I think I'd be able to make a quick commit this
>>>>>>>>>>>> afternoon/weekend, it's very simimlar to what we're currently
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> doing
>>>>>
>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> the javadocs; it's matter of adding an entry to
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/jspwiki/site/trunk/
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> content/extpaths.txt
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> and then commiting the desired directory+file to
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/infra/websites/production/
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> jspwiki/content/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ..
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> br,
>>>>>>>>>>>> juan pablo
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 1:42 PM, Harry Metske <
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> harry.met...@gmail.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> can't we just make that page empty and only put some html/js
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> over
>>>>
>>>>> there
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> that immediately redirects to the wiki home page?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5 August 2016 at 11:28, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> juanpablo.san...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Dave,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IMO there isn't any showstopper, only that generating the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> site
>>>>
>>>>> locally
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> is a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bit complicated. The site, with instructions on how to build
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>
>>>>> locally,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in SVN at https://svn.apache.org/repos/a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> sf/jspwiki/site/trunk/
>>>>
>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> old
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> template sitting at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/jspwiki/site/trunk/template
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> s/
>>>>
>>>>> That said, as we're not updating very often the site, rather
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> than
>>>>>
>>>>>> building
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> locally, perhaps is easier to use the CMS bookmarklet and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> keep
>>>>
>>>>> pushing
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> changes to staging area until the new template is ready to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> go.
>>>>
>>>>> Regarding the different url for jspwiki-wiki.a.o, don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> remember
>>>>
>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> specifics but, long story short, when setting up the vm to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> host
>>>>
>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> wiki,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Infra team found easier to set it up at the actual
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> location
>>>>
>>>>> and,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> our
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> request took several months to complete (delays on both
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> sides),
>>>>
>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> didn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> push to have the wiki inside jspwiki.a.o.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> br,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> juan pablo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 5:31 AM, Dave Koelmeyer <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dave.koelme...@davekoelmeyer.co.nz> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Quick question, the homepage for JSPWiki is currently:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://jspwiki.apache.org/ – and as can be seen it's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> running
>>>>
>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> old
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> template. Perhaps not the best first impression :) Is there
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any
>>>>
>>>>> show-stopper preventing switching this to Haddock?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (On a related note I'm not quite sure why there are two
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> separate
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> sites,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> when the content of https://jspwiki-wiki.apache.org/ could
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> sit
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the same instance as https://jspwiki.apache.org/, but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that's
>>>>
>>>>> not a
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> big
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> deal.)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dave Koelmeyer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://blog.davekoelmeyer.co.nz
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Dave Koelmeyer
>>>>>>> http://blog.davekoelmeyer.co.nz
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>
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