Hi Dave, (apologies on the delayed response)
Don't know if it is too late, but I'd like to ask for a couple of changes: - first, make the old site so it could still be accesible through, f.ex., http://jspwiki.apache.org/old just in case there's a (wiki) VM failure, we could point to the old one. As a bonus, the javadocs would still be accesible through http://jspwiki.apache.org/apidocs - second, make the wiki available through both http://jspwiki.apache.org and http://jspwiki-wiki.apache.org. Make the first the "official" link for wiki docs, keep the second so we don't have dead links (I prefer jspwiki.a.o over jspwiki-wiki.a.o, which seems redundant to me). In case this combination is not feasable, keep the wiki under http://jspwiki.apache.org/docs (or whatever), and place a redirect under jspwiki.a.o/index.html to http://jspwiki.apache.org/docs so it "feels" as the project's home page. sounds reasonable? WDYT? The first change and the redirect part on the second are very easily doable under the current CMS. As for other part, I know I volunteered for it, but hadn't made any progress yet, shame on me :-/ In any case, please feel free to start migrating the content! Any progress in there will be better than my current no-progress at it. Last, in case all of the above sounds reasonable, I'll request a new git repo to hold the site in there, actually it's still placed on svn.. best regards + thanks for bringing this up! juan pablo On Sun, Mar 12, 2017 at 2:31 AM, Dave Koelmeyer < dave.koelme...@davekoelmeyer.co.nz> wrote: > Hi All, > > So it sounds like we can go ahead with requesting a redirect from infra > to point jspwiki.apache.org at jspwiki-wiki.apache.org? Happy to get > this underway and take on migrating any content from the old site. As > far as I'm aware, the only outstanding consideration is the javadocs—I > don't know enough about this to suggest where to host these, so perhaps > someone can look into this? > > Cheers, > Dave > > On 13/08/16 00:51, Dirk Frederickx wrote: > > The HADDOCK template now shows the Apache brand , while previously the > > default JSPWiki template didn't. > > So maybe now a single JPSWiki homepage would be possible > > > > dirk > > > > On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 2:09 PM, Harry Metske <harry.met...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > >> I remember we have had a sort of discussion with the infra team about > this. > >> The end of the discussion was that we came to what we have now, but I > >> cannot remember anymore what the exact reasons were. > >> We could ask them what their opinion is now... > >> > >> I am not so worried about having some downtime every now and then, it's > not > >> that critical. > >> > >> regards, > >> Harry > >> > >> > >> On 12 August 2016 at 13:59, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez < > >> juanpablo.san...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >>> Hi, > >>> > >>> (a little bit late, but) in that case wouldn't it be easier to ask > infra > >> to > >>> point jspwiki.apache.org directly to the wiki? There are some brand > >>> requirements we should follow (most of the upper right links, the > Apache > >>> section on the left, and the footer, if I recall correctly) and we > would > >>> have to find a place for javadocs, but this shouldn't be a showstopper. > >>> > >>> My only concern with this is having the wiki always up, the CMS is > >> clunkier > >>> to update, but it is always up, whereas the wiki VM has had a few small > >>> (=hours) hiccups. But other than that, it's how jspwiki.org was/is > >> setup, > >>> so I'm not opposed to switch to a full wiki homepage. > >>> > >>> thoughts? > >>> > >>> > >>> best regards, > >>> juan pablo > >>> > >>> On Sat, Aug 6, 2016 at 1:28 PM, Harry Metske <harry.met...@gmail.com> > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>>> my suggestion was the latter (redirect from jspwiki.apache.org to > >>>> jspwiki-wiki.apache.org) > >>>> > >>>> On 5 August 2016 at 14:17, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez < > >>>> juanpablo.san...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Hi Harry, > >>>>> > >>>>> technical issues aside, I'm not sure I'm following what you're > >>> proposing, > >>>>> if replacing jspwiki.a.o with our wiki, or if having something like > >>>>> jspwiki.a.o/wiki redirecting to the wiki? > >>>>> > >>>>> for the former I think it would be easier to ask infra to directly > >>> point > >>>>> jspwiki.a.o to the wiki vm. > >>>>> > >>>>> for the latter I think I'd be able to make a quick commit this > >>>>> afternoon/weekend, it's very simimlar to what we're currently doing > >>> with > >>>>> the javadocs; it's matter of adding an entry to > >>>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/jspwiki/site/trunk/ > >>> content/extpaths.txt > >>>>> and then commiting the desired directory+file to > >>>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/infra/websites/production/ > >>> jspwiki/content/ > >>>> .. > >>>>> > >>>>> br, > >>>>> juan pablo > >>>>> > >>>>> On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 1:42 PM, Harry Metske <harry.met...@gmail.com > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> can't we just make that page empty and only put some html/js over > >>> there > >>>>>> that immediately redirects to the wiki home page? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On 5 August 2016 at 11:28, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez < > >>>>>> juanpablo.san...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> Hi Dave, > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> IMO there isn't any showstopper, only that generating the site > >>>> locally > >>>>>> is a > >>>>>>> bit complicated. The site, with instructions on how to build it > >>>>> locally, > >>>>>> is > >>>>>>> in SVN at https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/jspwiki/site/trunk/ > >>> with > >>>>> the > >>>>>>> old > >>>>>>> template sitting at > >>>>>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/jspwiki/site/trunk/templates/ > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> That said, as we're not updating very often the site, rather than > >>>>>> building > >>>>>>> locally, perhaps is easier to use the CMS bookmarklet and keep > >>>> pushing > >>>>>>> changes to staging area until the new template is ready to go. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Regarding the different url for jspwiki-wiki.a.o, don't remember > >>> the > >>>>>>> specifics but, long story short, when setting up the vm to host > >> the > >>>>> wiki, > >>>>>>> the Infra team found easier to set it up at the actual location > >>> and, > >>>> as > >>>>>> our > >>>>>>> request took several months to complete (delays on both sides), > >> we > >>>>> didn't > >>>>>>> push to have the wiki inside jspwiki.a.o. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> br, > >>>>>>> juan pablo > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 5:31 AM, Dave Koelmeyer < > >>>>>>> dave.koelme...@davekoelmeyer.co.nz> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Hi All, > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Quick question, the homepage for JSPWiki is currently: > >>>>>>>> https://jspwiki.apache.org/ – and as can be seen it's running > >>> the > >>>>> old > >>>>>>>> template. Perhaps not the best first impression :) Is there any > >>>>>>>> show-stopper preventing switching this to Haddock? > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> (On a related note I'm not quite sure why there are two > >> separate > >>>>> sites, > >>>>>>>> when the content of https://jspwiki-wiki.apache.org/ could > >> just > >>>> sit > >>>>> in > >>>>>>>> the same instance as https://jspwiki.apache.org/, but that's > >>> not a > >>>>> big > >>>>>>>> deal.) > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Cheers, > >>>>>>>> Dave > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>> Dave Koelmeyer > >>>>>>>> http://blog.davekoelmeyer.co.nz > >>>>>>>> GPG Key ID: 0x238BFF87 > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > -- > Dave Koelmeyer > http://blog.davekoelmeyer.co.nz > GPG Key ID: 0x238BFF87 > >
