Hi Ferenc,

Thanks for the FLIP, +1 from me for the proposal. I think these changes
would be a great solution to all the confusion that comes from these two
action parameters.

Best regards,
Mate

Ferenc Csaky <ferenc.cs...@pm.me.invalid> ezt írta (időpont: 2024. máj.
28., K, 16:13):

> Thank you Xintong for your input.
>
> I prepared a FLIP for this change [1], looking forward for any
> other opinions.
>
> Thanks,
> Ferenc
>
> [1]
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1EX74rFp9bMKdfoGkz1ASOM6Ibw32rRxIadX72zs2zoY/edit?usp=sharing
>
>
>
> On Friday, 17 May 2024 at 07:04, Xintong Song <tonysong...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > AFAIK, the main purpose of having `run-application` was to make sure
> > the user is aware that application mode is used, which executes the main
> > method of the user program in JM rather than in client. This was
> important
> > at the time application mode was first introduced, but maybe not that
> > important anymore, given that per-job mode is deprecated and likely
> removed
> > in 2.0. Therefore, +1 for the proposal.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Xintong
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, May 16, 2024 at 11:35 PM Ferenc Csaky ferenc.cs...@pm.me.invalid
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hello devs,
> > >
> > > I saw quite some examples when customers were confused about run, and
> run-
> > > application in the Flink CLI and I was wondering about the necessity of
> > > deploying
> > > Application Mode (AM) jobs with a different command, than Session and
> > > Per-Job mode jobs.
> > >
> > > I can see a point that YarnDeploymentTarget [1] and
> > > KubernetesDeploymentTarget
> > > [2] are part of their own maven modules and not known in flink-clients,
> > > so the
> > > deployment mode validations are happening during cluster deployment in
> > > their specific
> > > ClusterDescriptor implementation [3]. Although these are implementation
> > > details that
> > > IMO should not define user-facing APIs.
> > >
> > > The command line setup is the same for both run and run-application, so
> > > I think there
> > > is a quite simple way to achieve a unified flink run experience, but I
> > > might missed
> > > something so I would appreciate any inputs on this topic.
> > >
> > > Based on my assumptions I think it would be possible to deprecate the
> run-
> > > application in Flink 1.20 and remove it completely in Flink 2.0. I
> > > already put together a
> > > PoC [4], and I was able to deploy AM jobs like this:
> > >
> > > flink run --target kubernetes-application ...
> > >
> > > If others also agree with this, I would be happy to open a FLIP. WDYT?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Ferenc
> > >
> > > [1]
> > >
> https://github.com/apache/flink/blob/master/flink-yarn/src/main/java/org/apache/flink/yarn/configuration/YarnDeploymentTarget.java
> > > [2]
> > >
> https://github.com/apache/flink/blob/master/flink-kubernetes/src/main/java/org/apache/flink/kubernetes/configuration/KubernetesDeploymentTarget.java
> > > [3]
> > >
> https://github.com/apache/flink/blob/48e5a39c9558083afa7589d2d8b054b625f61ee9/flink-kubernetes/src/main/java/org/apache/flink/kubernetes/KubernetesClusterDescriptor.java#L206
> > > [4]
> > >
> https://github.com/ferenc-csaky/flink/commit/40b3e1b998c7a4273eaaff71d9162c9f1ee039c0
>

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