Thank you Xintong for your input.

I prepared a FLIP for this change [1], looking forward for any
other opinions.

Thanks,
Ferenc

[1] 
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1EX74rFp9bMKdfoGkz1ASOM6Ibw32rRxIadX72zs2zoY/edit?usp=sharing



On Friday, 17 May 2024 at 07:04, Xintong Song <tonysong...@gmail.com> wrote:

> 
> 
> AFAIK, the main purpose of having `run-application` was to make sure
> the user is aware that application mode is used, which executes the main
> method of the user program in JM rather than in client. This was important
> at the time application mode was first introduced, but maybe not that
> important anymore, given that per-job mode is deprecated and likely removed
> in 2.0. Therefore, +1 for the proposal.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Xintong
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, May 16, 2024 at 11:35 PM Ferenc Csaky ferenc.cs...@pm.me.invalid
> 
> wrote:
> 
> > Hello devs,
> > 
> > I saw quite some examples when customers were confused about run, and run-
> > application in the Flink CLI and I was wondering about the necessity of
> > deploying
> > Application Mode (AM) jobs with a different command, than Session and
> > Per-Job mode jobs.
> > 
> > I can see a point that YarnDeploymentTarget [1] and
> > KubernetesDeploymentTarget
> > [2] are part of their own maven modules and not known in flink-clients,
> > so the
> > deployment mode validations are happening during cluster deployment in
> > their specific
> > ClusterDescriptor implementation [3]. Although these are implementation
> > details that
> > IMO should not define user-facing APIs.
> > 
> > The command line setup is the same for both run and run-application, so
> > I think there
> > is a quite simple way to achieve a unified flink run experience, but I
> > might missed
> > something so I would appreciate any inputs on this topic.
> > 
> > Based on my assumptions I think it would be possible to deprecate the run-
> > application in Flink 1.20 and remove it completely in Flink 2.0. I
> > already put together a
> > PoC [4], and I was able to deploy AM jobs like this:
> > 
> > flink run --target kubernetes-application ...
> > 
> > If others also agree with this, I would be happy to open a FLIP. WDYT?
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Ferenc
> > 
> > [1]
> > https://github.com/apache/flink/blob/master/flink-yarn/src/main/java/org/apache/flink/yarn/configuration/YarnDeploymentTarget.java
> > [2]
> > https://github.com/apache/flink/blob/master/flink-kubernetes/src/main/java/org/apache/flink/kubernetes/configuration/KubernetesDeploymentTarget.java
> > [3]
> > https://github.com/apache/flink/blob/48e5a39c9558083afa7589d2d8b054b625f61ee9/flink-kubernetes/src/main/java/org/apache/flink/kubernetes/KubernetesClusterDescriptor.java#L206
> > [4]
> > https://github.com/ferenc-csaky/flink/commit/40b3e1b998c7a4273eaaff71d9162c9f1ee039c0

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