I'd be fine with dropping the "Trivial" priority in favour of "starter"
label.

Best,

Dawid

On 01/03/2021 11:53, Konstantin Knauf wrote:
> Hi Dawid,
>
> Thanks for the feedback. Do you think we should simply get rid of the
> "Trivial" priority then and use the "starter" label more aggressively?
>
> Best,
>
> Konstantin
>
> On Mon, Mar 1, 2021 at 11:44 AM Dawid Wysakowicz <dwysakow...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Konstantin,
>>
>> I also like the idea.
>>
>> Two comments:
>>
>> * you describe the "Trivial" priority as one that needs to be
>> implemented immediately. First of all it is not used to often, but I
>> think the way it works now is similar with a "starter" label. Tasks that
>> are not bugs, are easy to implement and we think they are fine to be
>> taken by newcomers. Therefore they do not fall in my mind into
>> "immediately" category.
>>
>> * I would still deprioritise test instabilities. I think there shouldn't
>> be a problem with that. We do post links to all failures therefore it
>> will automatically priortise the tasks according to failure frequencies.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Dawid
>>
>> On 01/03/2021 09:38, Konstantin Knauf wrote:
>>> Hi Xintong,
>>>
>>> yes, such labels would make a lot of sense. I added a sentence to the
>>> document.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Konstantin
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 1, 2021 at 8:51 AM Xintong Song <tonysong...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>> Thanks for driving this discussion, Konstantin.
>>>>
>>>> I like the idea of having a bot reminding reporter/assignee/watchers
>> about
>>>> inactive tickets and if needed downgrade/close them automatically.
>>>>
>>>> My two cents:
>>>> We may have labels like "downgraded-by-bot" / "closed-by-bot", so that
>> it's
>>>> easier to filter and review tickets updated by the bot.
>>>> We may want to review such tickets (e.g., monthly) in case a valid
>> ticket
>>>> failed to draw the attention of relevant committers and the reporter
>>>> doesn't know who to ping.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you~
>>>>
>>>> Xintong Song
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Feb 27, 2021 at 1:37 AM Till Rohrmann <trohrm...@apache.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for starting this discussion Konstantin. I like your proposal
>> and
>>>>> also the idea of automating the tedious parts of it via a bot.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Till
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Feb 26, 2021 at 4:17 PM Konstantin Knauf <kna...@apache.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear Flink Community,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would like to start a discussion on improving and to some extent
>>>> simply
>>>>>> defining the way we work with Jira. Some aspects have been discussed a
>>>>>> while back [1], but I would like to go a bit beyond that with the
>>>>> following
>>>>>> goals in mind:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    -
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    clearer communication and expectation management with the community
>>>>>>    -
>>>>>>
>>>>>>       a user or contributor should be able to judge the urgency of a
>>>>> ticket
>>>>>>       by its priority
>>>>>>       -
>>>>>>
>>>>>>       if a ticket is assigned to someone the expectation that someone
>>>> is
>>>>>>       working on it should hold
>>>>>>       -
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    generally reduce noise in Jira
>>>>>>    -
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    reduce overhead of committers to ask about status updates of
>>>>>>    contributions or bug reports
>>>>>>    -
>>>>>>
>>>>>>       “Are you still working on this?”
>>>>>>       -
>>>>>>
>>>>>>       “Are you still interested in this?”
>>>>>>       -
>>>>>>
>>>>>>       “Does this still happen on Flink 1.x?”
>>>>>>       -
>>>>>>
>>>>>>       “Are you still experiencing this issue?”
>>>>>>       -
>>>>>>
>>>>>>       “What is the status of the implementation”?
>>>>>>       -
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    while still encouraging users to add new tickets and to leave
>>>> feedback
>>>>>>    about existing tickets
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please see the full proposal here:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/19VmykDSn4BHgsCNTXtN89R7xea8e3cUIl-uivW8L6W8/edit#
>>>>>> .
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The idea would be to discuss this proposal in this thread. If we come
>>>> to
>>>>> a
>>>>>> conclusion, I'd document the proposal in the wiki [2] and we would
>> then
>>>>>> vote on it (approval by "Lazy Majority").
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Konstantin
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [1]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/rd34fb695d371c2bf0cbd1696ce190bac35dd78f29edd8c60d0c7ee71%40%3Cdev.flink.apache.org%3E
>>>>>> [2]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLINK/FLINK+Jira+field+definitions
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Konstantin Knauf
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://twitter.com/snntrable
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://github.com/knaufk
>>>>>>
>>

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