That is a good thing to have, agreed. On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 5:13 PM, Henry Saputra <henry.sapu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> For me personally, would like to still keep the architecture image [1] > to show how it interacts with other systems. > > This usually help people to see how Flink could fit into their > existing infrastructure pieces. > > - Henry > > > [1] http://flink.apache.org/img/WhatIsFlink.png > > On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 1:55 AM, Stephan Ewen <se...@apache.org> wrote: > > I think starting with Ufuk's draft, de-cluttering it is a good start. > > > > - Having a more prominent tag line > > - Add some pictures for features back > > - align the content as per Felix' suggestion > > > > That should give us a faster quick overview, but keep some serious > content > > in the starting page. > > > > I especially like that we have the stack figure and the recent blog posts > > on the new website - that we should keep no matter what. > > > > > > > > On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 10:33 AM, Kostas Tzoumas <ktzou...@apache.org> > > wrote: > > > >> Good points raised by Stephan, Felix, and Volker. > >> > >> Do you think we can achieve this by iterating on the new design? One > thing > >> we can indeed do is de-clutter a bit. Apart from that, what high level > >> points would you like to see in the frontpage? > >> > >> On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 6:16 AM, Markl, Volker, Prof. Dr. < > >> volker.ma...@tu-berlin.de> wrote: > >> > >> > -1 > >> > > >> > Dear all, > >> > > >> > first and foremost, thanks to Ufuk, for the new design. > >> > > >> > However, I agree with Felix that the current page is more of a > >> > documentation than a front page. > >> > > >> > I wonder where would people who do not know about Flink already find > what > >> > it is about quickly in a concise way? > >> > I believe that the landing page should give information about > features > >> in > >> > a "declarative way" (what, not how ;-) ) > >> > before going into details. > >> > > >> > I also believe that the current page does a better job on this than > the > >> > new design. To me the new design looks like > >> > a perfect architecture page and intro to the documentation, but not > like > >> > the starting page of the project. > >> > > >> > Best, > >> > Volker > >> > > >> > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > >> > Von: ewenstep...@gmail.com [mailto:ewenstep...@gmail.com] Im Auftrag > von > >> > Stephan Ewen > >> > Gesendet: Montag, 11. Mai 2015 22:01 > >> > An: dev@flink.apache.org > >> > Betreff: Re: New project website > >> > > >> > I agree that we should have a "more serious content, less happy > hipster" > >> > website. > >> > > >> > The current one is very nice, but I also think it has a tendency to > pack > >> > too much content into a small space. > >> > For me (and probably other old people with less-than-sharp eyes), it > may > >> > help to space things out a bit... > >> > > >> > On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 2:58 PM, Timo Walther <twal...@apache.org> > >> wrote: > >> > > >> > > I completely agree with Robert. Less marketing, more technical > >> > > information targeted to the user group. > >> > > > >> > > I think the diagram could be a little bit larger and the blog post > >> > > smaller, so that the lines meet in the middle ;) > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > On 11.05.2015 14:39, Robert Metzger wrote: > >> > > > >> > >> I think its fine when the front page looks a little bit more like a > >> > >> documentation. > >> > >> Flink is no fancy hipster app, our users are either sysops running > it > >> > >> on a cluster or developers programming against APIs. > >> > >> I think the new website will convince this target audience. > >> > >> > >> > >> I agree with you that aligning the vertical separators might help > >> > >> visual structure of the page. I think we "only" need to center the > >> > >> vertical separator between the getting started and the > blog/community > >> > section. > >> > >> The positioning of the first line is fine, in my opinion.... > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 2:27 PM, Felix Neutatz > >> > >> <neut...@googlemail.com> > >> > >> wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> Hi Ufuk, > >> > >>> > >> > >>> I really like the idea of redesigning the start page. But in my > >> > >>> opinion your page design looks more like a documentation webpage > >> > >>> than a starting page. > >> > >>> > >> > >>> In my personal opinion I like the current design better, since you > >> > >>> get a really quick overview with many fancy pictures. (So if you > >> > >>> wanna dive in deep, you can check out things in the documentation > >> > or/and wiki). > >> > >>> > >> > >>> Moreover I have some design issue. Can you align the structure > that > >> > >>> there aren't as many overlaps. Here you can see what I mean: > >> > >>> http://postimg.org/image/paogu6f3h/ > >> > >>> > >> > >>> This is only my personal opinion, maybe I have a wrong idea about > >> > >>> starting pages. > >> > >>> > >> > >>> Best regards, > >> > >>> Felix > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> 2015-05-11 14:06 GMT+02:00 Hermann Gábor <reckone...@gmail.com>: > >> > >>> > >> > >>> Great! > >> > >>>> It looks way better than the current site :) > >> > >>>> > >> > >>>> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 1:28 PM Stephan Ewen <se...@apache.org> > >> > wrote: > >> > >>>> > >> > >>>> I think we may have to remove the term "Language Integrated > >> > >>>> Queries", I > >> > >>>>> think that is trademarked by Microsoft. > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>>>> Otherwise, +1 > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>>>> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 1:19 PM, Maximilian Michels > >> > >>>>> <m...@apache.org> > >> > >>>>> wrote: > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>>>> +1 very nice comprehensive overhaul of the website. I'd suggest > >> > >>>>> to > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>>>> merge > >> > >>>> > >> > >>>>> this as soon as possible. We can incrementally fix the remaining > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>>>> issues > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> and > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>>>>> add a twitter feed to the front page. > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>>>>> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 12:09 PM, Ted Dunning > >> > >>>>>> <ted.dunn...@gmail.com > >> > >>>>>> wrote: > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>>>>> If there is an active twitter entity for Flink, I recommend > >> > >>>>>> framing > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>> that > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>>>>> on > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>> the home page. > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 8:51 AM, Ufuk Celebi <u...@apache.org> > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>> wrote: > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> Hey all, > >> > >>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>> I reworked the project website the last couple of days and > >> > >>>>>>>> would > >> > >>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>> like > >> > >>>> > >> > >>>>> to > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>> share the preview: > >> > >>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>> http://uce.github.io/flink-web/ > >> > >>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>> I would like to get this in asap. We can push incremental > >> > >>>>>>>> updates > >> > >>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>> at > >> > >>>> > >> > >>>>> any > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>> time, but I think this version is a big improvement over the > >> > >>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>> current > >> > >>>> > >> > >>>>> status > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>> quo. If I get some +1s I'll go ahead and update the website > >> > >>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>> today. > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> – Ufuk > >> > >>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > > >> >
