Good points raised by Stephan, Felix, and Volker. Do you think we can achieve this by iterating on the new design? One thing we can indeed do is de-clutter a bit. Apart from that, what high level points would you like to see in the frontpage?
On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 6:16 AM, Markl, Volker, Prof. Dr. < volker.ma...@tu-berlin.de> wrote: > -1 > > Dear all, > > first and foremost, thanks to Ufuk, for the new design. > > However, I agree with Felix that the current page is more of a > documentation than a front page. > > I wonder where would people who do not know about Flink already find what > it is about quickly in a concise way? > I believe that the landing page should give information about features in > a "declarative way" (what, not how ;-) ) > before going into details. > > I also believe that the current page does a better job on this than the > new design. To me the new design looks like > a perfect architecture page and intro to the documentation, but not like > the starting page of the project. > > Best, > Volker > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: ewenstep...@gmail.com [mailto:ewenstep...@gmail.com] Im Auftrag von > Stephan Ewen > Gesendet: Montag, 11. Mai 2015 22:01 > An: dev@flink.apache.org > Betreff: Re: New project website > > I agree that we should have a "more serious content, less happy hipster" > website. > > The current one is very nice, but I also think it has a tendency to pack > too much content into a small space. > For me (and probably other old people with less-than-sharp eyes), it may > help to space things out a bit... > > On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 2:58 PM, Timo Walther <twal...@apache.org> wrote: > > > I completely agree with Robert. Less marketing, more technical > > information targeted to the user group. > > > > I think the diagram could be a little bit larger and the blog post > > smaller, so that the lines meet in the middle ;) > > > > > > On 11.05.2015 14:39, Robert Metzger wrote: > > > >> I think its fine when the front page looks a little bit more like a > >> documentation. > >> Flink is no fancy hipster app, our users are either sysops running it > >> on a cluster or developers programming against APIs. > >> I think the new website will convince this target audience. > >> > >> I agree with you that aligning the vertical separators might help > >> visual structure of the page. I think we "only" need to center the > >> vertical separator between the getting started and the blog/community > section. > >> The positioning of the first line is fine, in my opinion.... > >> > >> > >> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 2:27 PM, Felix Neutatz > >> <neut...@googlemail.com> > >> wrote: > >> > >> Hi Ufuk, > >>> > >>> I really like the idea of redesigning the start page. But in my > >>> opinion your page design looks more like a documentation webpage > >>> than a starting page. > >>> > >>> In my personal opinion I like the current design better, since you > >>> get a really quick overview with many fancy pictures. (So if you > >>> wanna dive in deep, you can check out things in the documentation > or/and wiki). > >>> > >>> Moreover I have some design issue. Can you align the structure that > >>> there aren't as many overlaps. Here you can see what I mean: > >>> http://postimg.org/image/paogu6f3h/ > >>> > >>> This is only my personal opinion, maybe I have a wrong idea about > >>> starting pages. > >>> > >>> Best regards, > >>> Felix > >>> > >>> > >>> 2015-05-11 14:06 GMT+02:00 Hermann Gábor <reckone...@gmail.com>: > >>> > >>> Great! > >>>> It looks way better than the current site :) > >>>> > >>>> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 1:28 PM Stephan Ewen <se...@apache.org> > wrote: > >>>> > >>>> I think we may have to remove the term "Language Integrated > >>>> Queries", I > >>>>> think that is trademarked by Microsoft. > >>>>> > >>>>> Otherwise, +1 > >>>>> > >>>>> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 1:19 PM, Maximilian Michels > >>>>> <m...@apache.org> > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> +1 very nice comprehensive overhaul of the website. I'd suggest > >>>>> to > >>>>>> > >>>>> merge > >>>> > >>>>> this as soon as possible. We can incrementally fix the remaining > >>>>>> > >>>>> issues > >>> > >>>> and > >>>>> > >>>>>> add a twitter feed to the front page. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 12:09 PM, Ted Dunning > >>>>>> <ted.dunn...@gmail.com > >>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> If there is an active twitter entity for Flink, I recommend > >>>>>> framing > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> that > >>>>> > >>>>>> on > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> the home page. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 8:51 AM, Ufuk Celebi <u...@apache.org> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Hey all, > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I reworked the project website the last couple of days and > >>>>>>>> would > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> like > >>>> > >>>>> to > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> share the preview: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> http://uce.github.io/flink-web/ > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I would like to get this in asap. We can push incremental > >>>>>>>> updates > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> at > >>>> > >>>>> any > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> time, but I think this version is a big improvement over the > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> current > >>>> > >>>>> status > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> quo. If I get some +1s I'll go ahead and update the website > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> today. > >>> > >>>> – Ufuk > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > > >
